1> Did the Tulsa 6 have a right to start WPF ? - Page 13

StMark · #**121** 02-08-2008, 12:15 AM

Dan D,

I just bought a new phone that just came out (motoQ). it was quite a pricey phone w/all the bells and whistles . anyways, It shows CNN and Fox news and other TV channels. it came with the package(internet).
I understand that this will be a common feature on all phones in the future. what will be your stand on this?

George · #**122** 02-08-2008, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by StMark

Dan D,

I just bought a new phone that just came out (motoQ). it was quite a pricey phone w/all the bells and whistles . anyways, It shows CNN and Fox news and other TV channels. it came with the package(internet).
I understand that this will be a common feature on all phones in the future. what will be your stand on this?

How are liking the phone so far? I am thinking about upgrading.

StMark · #**123** 02-08-2008, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by George

How are liking the phone so far? I am thinking about upgrading.

I really like it. it was a little tricky at first but i think i'm getting the hang of it. it looks like a blackberry but much better. it's made by motorola.

I got a good package.unlimited text messages, internet,email and IM

Coonskinner · #**124** 02-08-2008, 04:09 AM

That Q looks like a homophone.

tv1a · #**125** 02-08-2008, 06:06 AM

1. It's hard to respect people riddled with inconsistency.
2. God didn't call this bunch to form a new group. Ego, pride and self centeredness were the motivation.
3. Parallels between racism and the wpf are so obvious, but it is a touchy subject.
4. I've seen saints with the same attitude and spirit. Definitely not a spirit of God.

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Originally Posted by Dan'D

Did we not see this coming. In the last few years you have seen more UPC churches go Independent because of standards.

The church I was raised in was UPC but the pastor was prepared in case he felt the UPC was going the wrong direction they would pull out.

No one can deny that UPC as a general has been going more and more liberal. Regardless of your personal feeling there are a lot of pastor and ministers that feel over the years the UPC left them. A lot of things are being allowed in some churches that no one would ever believe 10 – 15 years ago.

For most, being an independent church has so many problems not being in an organization. There people has no connection between other churches for large meetings, Camp Meeting, Youth Camp and general fellowship etc.

Did the Tulsa group have the right way to pull out and start another organization / Fellowship. No mater how they would go about it, they would had been criticized. It took a number of men who people highly respected to start the new fellowship. Not just respected in there own area but thru out UPC. They knew that there would be people calling them names and criticized them for what they did. Yet they did it anyway. I can not answer for all the men but the ones I know did not do it personal reasons.

This has been in the planning stages for a very some time and weather or not, NW won an election in California would not have any effect on the decision on starting the WPF.
Since they disagree with the direction UPC is going at what point do they say enough is enough. Which was where the Resolution on TV comes in. An then have enough support of pastors and ministers to do something of this magnitude.

The Tulsa 6 I’m sure was in contact with 100’s maybe 1000’s of pastor before they started WPF. If you feel they should not had contacted the other UPC ministers. Don’t we have freedom of speech within the ranks of UPC if you feel something is wrong.

Remember since this group of pastors are so well know I’m sure most if not all of the contacted pastors and minister were on first name basics.

Bro Haney does not answer to God for me, My pastor will have to. Bro. Haney was voted in to run an organization not run the church I attend. If my pastor did not do what he felt God was directing him to do, he would be derelict of his calling and again he would answer to God for that.

Whether you agree or disagree

I believe the so called Tulsa 6 felt God was directing them this way for some time. Who are we to tell them God was not directing them.

Questions:

1> Did the Tulsa 6 have a right to start WPF ?
2> How should they had done it?

Truthseeker · #**126** 02-08-2008, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by salvadorifam

I feel that men that started WPF had the right, if the organization that you have been a part of wants to leave its foundation and turn to the world, then you don't need to support it... I respect and honor the men that started this new fellowship, I praise God that there is still those that hold to the old paths...
I still attend a UPC, in some ways keeps the old paths and others its allowing more than it did even 5 yrs ago, gotta catch up with the time..
We need an organization that will hold to the old paths, not modernize everything...
We need Revival from GOd............

"old paths" can be subjective term.

ogatt · #**127** 02-08-2008, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by StMark

Dan D,

I just bought a new phone that just came out (motoQ). it was quite a pricey phone w/all the bells and whistles . anyways, It shows CNN and Fox news and other TV channels. it came with the package(internet).
I understand that this will be a common feature on all phones in the future. what will be your stand on this?

well you have just fell off the wagon. It aint enough to sneak off to walmart and watch tv or watch it at shoneys and i sure hope you dont have it in your home. I dont know any church people that do.

well anyway you are just an example of how much people love to sin. carryin a tv with you is a new low in holiness. I know you dont carry that devils eye in the churchhouse.

young man, send me your address and i will ship you a bag phone with an extension cord.
It only shows numbers and nothing scrolls so it is safe exceptin for gossipin.

tv is just the start.
all wordly magazines must go including outdoor life, time, national geo graphic(for obvious reasons) and usa today life section. I throw that section away before it comes in my house.

i strated lookin at what was coming on tv then i remember that if a man looks at a tv ad and thinks about it he has comitted tv watchin in his heart. straight from the book!!!!

i also cancelled my perscription to the magazine called underwater basket weavin.

i look at the water then i think about beaches then i start thinking about er........oh well you get the picture.

Git everything out of your house. Rules are what makes us live right.

as for that feller talking about computers and tv becoming one, it wont happen here.

i still have a 486 machine and i am typing this in DOS. I almost got convicted over the flashhing dot.

i did have a dream the other nite. A voice from above spoke and said "take your 486 up on the mountain and install Vista on it. I said "it wont fit on a 486"
the the voice said "i will provide the ram"

Dan'D · #**128** 02-08-2008, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by StMark

Dan D,

I just bought a new phone that just came out (motoQ). it was quite a pricey phone w/all the bells and whistles . anyways, It shows CNN and Fox news and other TV channels. it came with the package(internet).
I understand that this will be a common feature on all phones in the future. what will be your stand on this?

I would enjoy the news. But I think you must keep a black line.
Dan'D

Dan'D · #**129** 02-08-2008, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by tv1a

1. It's hard to respect people riddled with inconsistency.
2. God didn't call this bunch to form a new group. were the motivation.
3. Parallels between racism and the wpf are so obvious, but it is a touchy subject.
4. I've seen saints with the same attitude and spirit. Definitely not a spirit of God.

Did God tell he did not lead these men to do this.

If he did not then Ego, pride and self centeredness has come into play

Dan'D