Here's another witness for you, shaz. Open your eyes.
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"Many Christians do not try to understand what was written in a verse in the Bible. Instead they approach the passage to prove what they already believe."
Timmy I bet you are going to be the funniest person in hell.
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This is the core point of this person's rife error. He plays with the word of God and its symbols by making anything up about them that he wants, and calls it "it speaks to me." that's how dispensationalism was invented. It's not realizing the bible actually self -interprets its symbols, due to the wonder the word of God really is. These guys think the Koran can be found to contain the message of the Word, or gnostic works. It's gnosticism. Folks, we're dealing with a gnostic. True and blue one, too.
He doesn't know what the actual use of God is for these symbols, but takes them without a concern and makes up an interpretation, and flings it around as if he knows that the Lord means by His use of them in His Word.
When the bible speaks of the church having come to Zion in Heb 12:22, which corresponds to the goal the old covenant wilderness wanderers had in egypt, he doesn't see the spiritual position Hebrews 123:22 puts us in. He made up he thinks arriving int eh promised land means, but this time he thinks he really does know what it means in the bible (but he'll wax pedantic and tell you the bible is not the word, and laugh at the thought that 'In the beginning was the bible..."), and speaks patronizingly while he's at it to everyone who disagrees with him,
"Ah, son, you will find the truth when you really need to, if you can ever stop thinking the bible is the word."
Folks, we've got a genuine gnostic onboard.
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Here's another witness for you, shaz. Open your eyes.
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Here's another witness for you, shaz. Open your eyes.
i didbn't ask you for your useless, vapid, pointless, self-serving opinion, and when i do want to know your opinion, i'll go ask your wife, the one that wears the pants, ok? Now i see you have finally brought a witness, so let's take a look, shall we
Everyone in the true church that's not a denomination who heard the word spoken from Heaven and believed and lived it out.
The ones who...
Hebrews 12:2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.
That's who.
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15See to it that no one falls short of the grace of God
what, exackly, is the Grace of God, MB?
Let me break this down really simple so gnostics could understand it. The grace of God is salvation and righteousness granted to those who believe the only way to glory and redemption from sin was in fact by redemption through the work of the cross, and no other way... not even loving each other as we would have them love us. And it is also divine empowerment where Gods strengthens us with the strength of Christ due to our unions to Him in His death, burial and resurrection.
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25See to it that you do not refuse him who speaks.
who is speaking to you here, MB; guaranteed you'll blow this one. again.
See? You're closedminded before you begin.
God is speaking.
Hebrews 12:25-26 See that ye refuse not him that speaketh. For if they escaped not who refused him that spake on earth, much more shall not we escape, if we turn away from him that speaketh from heaven: (26) Whose voice then shook the earth: but now he hath promised, saying, Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven.
And here is where He spoke it:
Haggai 2:6-7 For thus saith the LORD of hosts; Yet once, it is a little while, and I will shake the heavens, and the earth, and the sea, and the dry land; (7) And I will shake all nations, and the desire of all nations shall come: and I will fill this house with glory, saith the LORD of hosts.
Never knew that, did you?
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26At that time his voice shook the earth
28Therefore, since we are receiving a kingdom that cannot be shaken
when, exackly, do "we" receive this kingdom, apostate?
We receive the kingdom that Israel cast away, and that was given to another nation. That nation is the holy nation of the church.
Matthew 21:43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
1 Peter 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:
We are born into the kingdom.
Born of water and of Spirit. (John 3:5). It's a kingdom that's righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Ghost. (Rom 14:17).
We receive it when we're born again into it.
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29for our “God is a consuming fire."
um, don't you tell people that the fire is in hell?
Some like yourself cannot distinguish between different fires. Fire purges and burns away the wood, hay and stubble, but cannot burn away gold, silver and precious stones. 1 Cor. 3.
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if you could read, MB, you would not have even included this one, and you would understand why E ran back under his rock.
Dude, you're the last one who's advice I'd take on what to read. You'd toss the Koran into the fray!
__________________ ...MY THOUGHTS, ANYWAY.
"Many Christians do not try to understand what was written in a verse in the Bible. Instead they approach the passage to prove what they already believe."
Let me break this down really simple so Gnostics could understand it. The grace of God is salvation and righteousness granted to those who believe the only way to glory and redemption from sin was in fact by redemption through the work of the cross, and no other way... not even loving each other as we would have them love us. And it is also divine empowerment where Gods strengthens us with the strength of Christ due to our unions to Him in His death, burial and resurrection.
Shaz this is a beautiful picture of the Gospel, and painting that you can actually feel the breeze, smell the trees, hear the birds singing.
Thank you Brother Blume for explaining the power of the Cross in such a simple way.
Shaz, if you can't accept the above then you don't want to present truth or even your own view. You just want to be a royal pain in the neck, and fill up thread after thread with your obnoxious behavior.
__________________ “Burn the Boats!!!” — Hernan Cortes
Shaz this is a beautiful picture of the Gospel, and painting that you can actually feel the breeze, smell the trees, hear the birds singing.
Thank you Brother Blume for explaining the power of the Cross in such a simple way.
Shaz, if you can't accept the above then you don't want to present truth or even your own view. You just want to be a royal pain in the neck, and fill up thread after thread with your obnoxious behavior.
That is a powerful rendering of the simplicity of the gospel. Bro. Blume nailed it.
you will have to excuse me, but it becomes pointless to argue with you, and i am not here to force you to my way of thinking. you are allowed to seek what you will, and reap. i only even paid you any attention, at all, because others come here looking for Word, and instead get seethed in their mother's milk, ok.
Don't find love until you are ready. You are fine, just like you are. You will find exactly what you seek. I do not condemn you. Now of course, neither can i let your apostate words, from those who have eaten and drank at His table, no less, be perceived as any shadow of Truth, to others, so here i am, doing what i am doing, but this does not negate any of the other.
That's a bit impossible seeing that you will only repeat your offenses after you ask to be excused.
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but it becomes pointless to argue with you,
We can only take the above comment as true when you cease to engage us in conversation.
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and i am not here to force you to my way of thinking.
Wow, then you sure do a good job faking it.
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you are allowed to seek what you will, and reap.
Well, la dee da, look who has appointed himself as the Grand Inquisitor.
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i only even paid you any attention, at all, because others come here looking for Word, and instead get seethed in their mother's milk, ok.
So, you only post here to seeth neophytes in your mother's milk?
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Don't find love until you are ready.
I beg your pardon! I'm happily married!
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You are fine,
Than frog's hair?
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just like you are.
I would rather be just like Jesus is.
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You will find exactly what you seek.
You will also, it will smell like sulfur and be very hot.
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I do not condemn you.
Well, you sure do a good job faking that too.
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Now of course, neither can i let your apostate words,
See, I told you, you do a good job faking it.
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from those who have eaten and drank at His table, no less, be perceived as any shadow of Truth, to others, so here i am, doing what i am doing, but this does not negate any of the other.
You are as phony as a rubber chicken.
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