Antifa states that violence is ok

[aegsm76]

How can anyone support this group?
link
http://thehill.com/policy/national-s...e-is-necessary

[Jermyn Davidson]

“I don’t think anyone should think that someone who is intent on politically organizing for the sake of creating a state-sponsored genocide — I don’t think is something that we should protect.”






Antifa activists justify their use of violence as self-defense against “the inherent danger of fascists organizing,” according to Mark Bray, a Dartmouth historian and author of a recent book on the movement.

From the article. ^^^

[aegsm76]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

“I don’t think anyone should think that someone who is intent on politically organizing for the sake of creating a state-sponsored genocide — I don’t think is something that we should protect.”






Antifa activists justify their use of violence as self-defense against “the inherent danger of fascists organizing,” according to Mark Bray, a Dartmouth historian and author of a recent book on the movement.

From the article. ^^^

Also from the article:


Rose City defines fascism as a “an ultra-nationalist ideology that mobilizes around and glorifies a national identity defined in exclusive racial, cultural, and/or historical terms, valuing this identity above all other interests (ie: gender or class).”

Antifa is also deeply mistrustful of the police and often overlaps ideologically with anarchy, a political philosophy that Isaacson defines as a society built on cooperation and mutual aid. Isaacson, who is an anarchist, argues that in order to be successful, antifascism has to operate outside of government.

“Getting state involved in this is no better than letting the Nazis go free,” he said, pointing to the Virginia State Police response to the violence at the white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, which many protesters and counterprotesters criticized as too slow.

Activists, including Isaacson, claim that police departments and the military have been infiltrated by Nazis and “have them kind of on their side.”

So, from this, if you are a patriotic American you could be considered a facist by Antifa.

[aegsm76]

Here is the real definition of Facism:
Fascism /ˈfæʃɪzəm/ is a form of radical authoritarian nationalism,[1][2] characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and control of industry and commerce,[3] that came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe

Notice how they have modified it!
And notice how they have adopted part of its ideology...

[Esaias]

Anybody not on board with communism is a FASCIST!!!

Good luck with that. Most Americans just want good money, Superbowl, big screens, and Netflix.

Now, if Antifa threatens THAT, they'll be rounded up and locked away post haste. Otherwise, they'll be no more effective than Sacco and Vanzetti.

[n david]

They don't just say it's okay, they claim it's NECESSARY.

Trump should declare Antifa a terrorist organization and any protest these thugs try doing, they should be arrested for domestic terrorism.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by n david

They don't just say it's okay, they claim it's NECESSARY.

Trump should declare Antifa a terrorist organization and any protest these thugs try doing, they should be arrested for domestic terrorism.

You have to be careful in rushing to label everyone a terrorist.


"But U.S. law enforcement officials, who enjoy sweeping powers to investigate and prosecute suspected foreign terrorists on U.S. soil, face obstacles to charging the man, James Alex Fields Jr., as a terrorist. The Justice Department's civil rights division is currently focused on whether Fields committed a hate crime. "

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/0...ections-241653


There is a reason why America is slow to label Americans who encourage and enact violence as terrorists. Surely, I am not a fan of the klan, but if the klan and other white nationalist organizations are not on the Federal terrorist list, then to label AntiFa as a terrorist organization would be inconsistent, at best.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

You have to be careful in rushing to label everyone a terrorist.


"But U.S. law enforcement officials, who enjoy sweeping powers to investigate and prosecute suspected foreign terrorists on U.S. soil, face obstacles to charging the man, James Alex Fields Jr., as a terrorist. The Justice Department's civil rights division is currently focused on whether Fields committed a hate crime. "

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/0...ections-241653


There is a reason why America is slow to label Americans who encourage and enact violence as terrorists. Surely, I am not a fan of the klan, but if the klan and other white nationalist organizations are not on the Federal terrorist list, then to label AntiFa as a terrorist organization would be inconsistent, at best.

The klan, etc. are not on the same level as antifa anyway. They aren't moral equivalents. Until AntiFa actually murders people (or terrorize PEOPLE by definition and mission) as an organization, the organization shouldn't be labeled a terrorist organization.

[FlamingZword]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

The klan, etc. are not on the same level as antifa anyway. They aren't moral equivalents. Until AntiFa actually murders people (or terrorize PEOPLE by definition and mission) as an organization, the organization shouldn't be labeled a terrorist organization.

Oh so we must wait until they actually kill someone.
Then in whose hand will that blood be on, on Donald Trump of course.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

The klan, etc. are not on the same level as antifa anyway. They aren't moral equivalents. Until AntiFa actually murders people (or terrorize PEOPLE by definition and mission) as an organization, the organization shouldn't be labeled a terrorist organization.

Terrorism does not require MURDER to qualify as terrorism, nor does it require RACIAL TARGETING. Although, I will say the antiflatulents are in fact racist and anti-white, as appears from their rhetoric, publications, speeches, chants, signs, and alignments/alliances.

They are openly supportive of communists and anarchists. Communism and militant "black flag" anarchism are CLASSIC terrorist movements, responsible for bombings and murders, assassinations, and TWO WORLD WARS, plus the Cold War, the Cultural Revolution in China, genocide in the Ukraine, Kazakhstan, Belorussia, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Poland, Hungary, Burma, Cambodia, Vietnam, Angola, Rhodesia, South Africa, etc etc etc.

The Klan? The only Klan still around are the undercover feds looking to set up trailer park patsies. Nazis? If they aren't feds they're radical leftard Jews looking to drum up donations squeezed from old ladies at the synagogues to the chants of "Never Again!", or underemployed tatted up skins with an internet connection and a membership on Stormfront (currently offline due to censorship, btw).