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Old 08-12-2021, 04:07 PM
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I read that the report from Israel said that it was 39% effective at preventing symptoms, 88% effective at preventing hospitalization, and 91% effective at preventing ending up in a ventilator. According to that report from Israel, it is less effective overall against Delta comparing with previous variants, but still.
How do they know how effective it is against hospitalization? Most people donít go to the hospital anyway. How effective is no vaccine in preventing hospitalization?
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Old 08-12-2021, 04:47 PM
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How do they know how effective it is against hospitalization? Most people don’t go to the hospital anyway. How effective is no vaccine in preventing hospitalization?
Is this a serious question?

One takes the number of hospitalized due to COVID without the vaccine divided by the total number unvaccinated) and the number hospitalized with the vaccine and divide by the total number vaccinated and compares the 2 figures.
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Old 08-12-2021, 05:14 PM
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Is this a serious question?

One takes the number of hospitalized due to COVID without the vaccine divided by the total number unvaccinated) and the number hospitalized with the vaccine and divide by the total number vaccinated and compares the 2 figures.
What about the ones who didnít have symptoms, or at least very mild symptoms and never tested? Iím pretty sure my daughter had it, but she never went to the hospital or got tested even. Where would the many mild cases be accounted for?

If you donít have complete data, how can you get accurate statistics. I know how to do math. It looks like they would be sampling heavily on severe cases and light on the minor ones. Hence skewing the statistics.
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Old 08-12-2021, 06:02 PM
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My 90 year old mother and I received our Pfizer shots in March... absolutely NO issues!

That is a blessing Sister Barb, no doubt that we all rejoice with you.
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Old 08-12-2021, 07:26 PM
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Re: Will Brother David K Bernard get vaccinated?

I had the Pfizer shots. No issues.

600,000 dead from covid is an issue.
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Old 08-12-2021, 07:43 PM
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I had the Pfizer shots. No issues.

600,000 dead from covid is an issue.
It seems that the body count has really slowed down. Hasnít it been at six hundred thousand plus for about six months? It sure seems like it.
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Old 08-12-2021, 08:33 PM
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What about the ones who didnít have symptoms, or at least very mild symptoms and never tested? Iím pretty sure my daughter had it, but she never went to the hospital or got tested even. Where would the many mild cases be accounted for?

If you donít have complete data, how can you get accurate statistics. I know how to do math. It looks like they would be sampling heavily on severe cases and light on the minor ones. Hence skewing the statistics.
Why would someone with no symptoms or mild symptoms be hospitalized for COVID?

For this stat it Doesnít matter how many had COVID. Matters how many in each subset hospitalized with COVID.
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Old 08-12-2021, 09:10 PM
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Why would someone with no symptoms or mild symptoms be hospitalized for COVID?

For this stat it Doesnít matter how many had COVID. Matters how many in each subset hospitalized with COVID.
No brother. It matters how many were NOT hospitalized with Covid.
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No brother. It matters how many were NOT hospitalized with Covid.
So if we know how many people aren't vaccinated and we know how many of those people were hospitalized with covid then to find how many unvaccinated were not hospitalized with covid you just subtract.

What I think you are trying to 'compute' is the percent of unvaccinated people that were hospitalized given that they had covid but that's not the same stat.

The covid hospitalization rate of the vaccinated and unvaccinated doesn't depend on whether you have covid or not. Only on whether you are hospitalized with covid.
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