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Old 11-13-2016, 11:49 PM
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Re: Repentance after a Prophetic Word

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Here's a thought:

When Esau wept before his father Isaac, had he sinned?

Nope. Jacob was the deceiver who had lied and so, had sinned.

So, did Esau need to repent for what Jacob did to trick Isaac?

Nope. I think Esau sought repentance for Isaac. To repent in Greek is to reconsider, to think again, and change one's mind.

Esau pleaded with Isaac to change his mind.

That's what Esau sought carefully with tears. He wanted dear old dad to change his mind about who should have received the inheritance and blessing.

But he couldn't find it, because Pa Isaac refused to grant to him the blessing of the firstborn, having already given it, no matter how he was tricked into it by Jacob.
Ahh. So Esau's repentance, was not true genuine repentance then, only a "feeling sorry because I got caught" kind of experience, rather than one of acknowledging his wrong, accepting it, and asking the Lord for mercy in his life because of his great mistake.

I like this explanation too. I think both yours and Bro. Blume are excellent responses to the dilemma of a pseudo-repentance experience that we see in Esau's case.

Either explanation is a sobering thought.
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Re: Repentance after a Prophetic Word

If a prophetic prediction comes true, does that prove it was from God?
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If a prophetic prediction comes true, does that prove it was from God?
Absolutely not.
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Re: Repentance after a Prophetic Word

To qualify... the devil has knowledge of world events, and evil spirits are party to information that our natural man would not have access to. So because someone prophesies something and says it is going to come to pass, does not necessarily mean that they are speaking from the Lord.

2 Corinthians 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
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Absolutely not.
Amen.

Deuteronomy 13:1-3 If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder, (2) And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them; (3) Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.
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To qualify... the devil has knowledge of world events, and evil spirits are party to information that our natural man would not have access to. So because someone prophesies something and says it is going to come to pass, does not necessarily mean that they are speaking from the Lord.

2 Corinthians 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
So if it comes true, it's either from God or from the devil. Got it.
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Amen.

Deuteronomy 13:1-3 If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder, (2) And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them; (3) Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.
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So if it comes true, it's either from God or from the devil. Got it.
evil genius at work . . .
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Re: Repentance after a Prophetic Word

?

seems kinda harsh, Amanah. "evil..?" can you dispute the statement?

(the clue is in the "scapegoat," for whatever that might be worth to anyone.)
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