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Old 05-22-2025, 06:00 PM
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Define "antisemitism", identify the sin which it is the result of, and explain "of what" Zionism is a part (Zionism is a part of what?), please.
Esaias,

Sorry for taking a bit to respond but I have been pretty busy. If my memory serves me, I was trying to recite the opinion of the Jewish lady being interviewed. I think you read it to be my opinion, and that is understandable but it seems to me that her opinion was that the holocaust was a punishment from God for their sins. It seems that she believes that anti semitism is the same. A punishment for the sins of attempting to take the promised land back by their own efforts instead of trusting God to do it for them.

I hope this clarifies the issue. I certainly am not a knowledgeable source on this subject, I was giving my opinion on what the lady said in the video. I’m interested, but I’m not knowledgeable.
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Esaias,

Sorry for taking a bit to respond but I have been pretty busy. If my memory serves me, I was trying to recite the opinion of the Jewish lady being interviewed. I think you read it to be my opinion, and that is understandable but it seems to me that her opinion was that the holocaust was a punishment from God for their sins. It seems that she believes that anti semitism is the same. A punishment for the sins of attempting to take the promised land back by their own efforts instead of trusting God to do it for them.

I hope this clarifies the issue. I certainly am not a knowledgeable source on this subject, I was giving my opinion on what the lady said in the video. I’m interested, but I’m not knowledgeable.
Yes, Pearl points out that in her belief that bad choices create bad outcomes.
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Not to be too technical but I agree with all of your points but the last one. Antisemitism is not a result of Zionism. It is the result of sin of which Zionism is a part.

Otherwise, yes.

And it seems to make sense to me what she said.
So you were saying "I agree that your synopsis of Pearl's points are a correct synopsis except the last one, Pearl meant to say thus and such..."?

So what did you mean by "it seems to make sense to me what said"? Did you mean "your synopsis seems to express the sense of what she said"? Or did you mean "what she said makes sense to me, as in I pretty much agree with her"?
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So you were saying "I agree that your synopsis of Pearl's points are a correct synopsis except the last one, Pearl meant to say thus and such..."?

So what did you mean by "it seems to make sense to me what said"? Did you mean "your synopsis seems to express the sense of what she said"? Or did you mean "what she said makes sense to me, as in I pretty much agree with her"?
I’m saying that what Sister Amanah wrote was the way I understood the lady. Except for the last point. I understood it differently than the way Suster Amanah explained it. My opinion was only concerning what the lady being interviewed expressed. I really was not saying she was right or wrong. I was giving her opinion as I understood her to say.
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I’m saying that what Sister Amanah wrote was the way I understood the lady. Except for the last point. I understood it differently than the way Suster Amanah explained it. My opinion was only concerning what the lady being interviewed expressed. I really was not saying she was right or wrong. I was giving her opinion as I understood her to say.
Ok, got it. Thanks for clearing things up for me.
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