Christians and Politics

[Nicodemus1968]

Looking for some info regarding history of believers in politics. Obviously, considering the atmosphere that where in today being Election Day. I’m looking to understand the role a Christian should play or not play in when it comes to world government.
Some of you scholars if you could shoot me some articles or books that maybe you have read or found useful, I’d be thankful.

[Tithesmeister]

Interesting topic and one worthy of discussion and researching.

I’m going to just throw out a conversation starter and I, intentionally will not provide supporting information.

How about the Christian Nationalism and the KKK involvement in the “early” Pentecostal movement? Should we get into that?

On a generic level, I know it’s controversial, but I do vote. I make my best attempt to support with my vote whichever candidate is least offensive to my Christian beliefs.

[Nicodemus1968]

Originally Posted by Tithesmeister

Interesting topic and one worthy of discussion and researching.

I’m going to just throw out a conversation starter and I, intentionally will not provide supporting information.

How about the Christian Nationalism and the KKK involvement in the “early” Pentecostal movement? Should we get into that?

On a generic level, I know it’s controversial, but I do vote. I make my best attempt to support with my vote whichever candidate is least offensive to my Christian beliefs.

I didn’t know that. Do you articles or a website that I could read further into that? Thanks

[Tithesmeister]

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968

I didn’t know that. Do you articles or a website that I could read further into that? Thanks

There is documentation. I really expected that Esaias would know some stuff. EB hasn’t weighed in yet either. I’ll dig up some documents if I need to. I’d rather wait for others to weigh in.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Tithesmeister

There is documentation. I really expected that Esaias would know some stuff. EB hasn’t weighed in yet either. I’ll dig up some documents if I need to. I’d rather wait for others to weigh in.

Enter KKK William Branham in the YouTubes search engine and look through the list.

Mormonism is nationalistic as well as the early Pentecostals. Yet, the LDS places themselves specifically into their eschatology. Where they are the ones who will save the United States at a time where the Constitution is threatened. The New Apostolic Reformation are also into Nationalism. Imagine being ruled by those nut jobs. But, keep in mind that not all Pentecostals or Apostolics pledge allegiance to the flag, or vote. Since voting for the lesser of two evils is still evil. Down here I found everyone from Eastern Orthodox to Baptists who refuse to vote for any level of government. Who believe that only through conversion (into their particular belief system) will anything be able to change. I spent a good hour listening to an individual tell me today how Donald Trump is the Beast because he was wounded in the head and is alive. I interjected and told him that Ronald Regan already had that title from his assassination attempt. DR D James Kennedy's old church in Fort Lauderdale are hard core Jesus is a Patriot believers. They have Jesus wrapped tight in the stars and stripes. Hey, if Hulk Hogan says it, it must be true.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Tithesmeister

There is documentation. I really expected that Esaias would know some stuff.

I do know a few things. Yet, it seems you expected me to get into a discussion about a subject where you said "I will intentionally not provide supporting information"?

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Tithesmeister

Interesting topic and one worthy of discussion and researching.

I’m going to just throw out a conversation starter and I, intentionally will not provide supporting information.

How about the Christian Nationalism and the KKK involvement in the “early” Pentecostal movement? Should we get into that?

Since you won't be providing supporting information, then there's not much to discuss, is there?

On a generic level, I know it’s controversial, but I do vote. I make my best attempt to support with my vote whichever candidate is least offensive to my Christian beliefs.

Who counts your vote?

[Amanah]

I don't care what pentecostalism or any other isms thinks or has done.

Government is ordained by God to promote good and restrain evil, as outlined in Romans 13. Its primary function is to maintain justice, uphold the sanctity of life, and protect property.

Christians are called to:

*Respect and Obey Authorities: Be model citizens, honoring and obeying governing authorities (Romans 13:1-7, 1 Peter 2:11-17)
*Pray for Governments: Pray for earthly governments to promote peace, justice, and righteousness (1 Timothy 2:1-4)
*Be Prophetic Voices: Speak out against injustice and call governments to accountability.

Examples of serving in govt:
*Joseph: Served in the Egyptian government, using his influence to benefit society (Genesis 45:9-12).
*Daniel: Held high-ranking positions in foreign administrations, implementing policies that benefited society.
*Queen Esther: Used her influence in the Persian government to save the Jewish people.

[Nicodemus1968]

Originally Posted by Amanah

I don't care what pentecostalism or any other isms thinks or has done.

Government is ordained by God to promote good and restrain evil, as outlined in Romans 13. Its primary function is to maintain justice, uphold the sanctity of life, and protect property.

Christians are called to:

*Respect and Obey Authorities: Be model citizens, honoring and obeying governing authorities (Romans 13:1-7, 1 Peter 2:11-17)
*Pray for Governments: Pray for earthly governments to promote peace, justice, and righteousness (1 Timothy 2:1-4)
*Be Prophetic Voices: Speak out against injustice and call governments to accountability.

Examples of serving in govt:
*Joseph: Served in the Egyptian government, using his influence to benefit society (Genesis 45:9-12).
*Daniel: Held high-ranking positions in foreign administrations, implementing policies that benefited society.
*Queen Esther: Used her influence in the Persian government to save the Jewish people.

Your examples are great.

Do you think there is a difference between the Old Covenant ways and the New Covenant ways. As far as how God used Joseph, Esther, and Daniel?

[Amanah]

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968

Your examples are great.

Do you think there is a difference between the Old Covenant ways and the New Covenant ways. As far as how God used Joseph, Esther, and Daniel?

Since the powers that be are ordained of God, we know that God is ultimately in control. Even though my Sister guilt tripped me into voting, I believe God's purpose will be done on earth as it is in heaven whether I vote or not.