I am spinning this off from the Church Twice a month thread, where during a 'Fix Michlow' intervention, Heb 13:17 has been repeated many many times.
As I was thinking about it this morning, I had these thoughts:
I think we would all agree that we obey them ONLY within the bounds of Biblical truth, we are not going to obey if they tell us to do something that is wrong. So, really, if I don't think the thing I am being ordered to do is biblical, why is that rebellion? And if I obey when I DO believe that what I am being told is biblical, then am I really "Obeying" or am I just doing what I think is right anyway?
Matthew 23:1 Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples, 2Saying The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat: 3All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.
or in NIV
Matthew 23:1Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples: 2"The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat. 3So you must obey them and do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach.
I am spinning this off from the Church Twice a month thread, where during a 'Fix Michlow' intervention, Heb 13:17 has been repeated many many times.
As I was thinking about it this morning, I had these thoughts:
I think we would all agree that we obey them ONLY within the bounds of Biblical truth, we are not going to obey if they tell us to do something that is wrong. So, really, if I don't think the thing I am being ordered to do is biblical, why is that rebellion? And if I obey when I DO believe that what I am being told is biblical, then am I really "Obeying" or am I just doing what I think is right anyway?
I agree Mich, but then comes the He said She said debate of Biblical truths.
Matthew 23:1 Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples, 2Saying The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat: 3All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.
or in NIV
Matthew 23:1Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples: 2"The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat. 3So you must obey them and do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach.
He was talking to Jews, who were still under the Law, of course he was going to tell them that. But we are not under OT law, and I do not think that applies.
I wonder if its OK to teach that the things that personnally convict me will sen you to hell.
I think she said within the bounds of Biblical Truth.
That is a pretty big brush.
The Catholic Church, the Mormons, and the "Gay" Rainbow Church all believe as well as Apostolics to be in Biblical Truth.
I think she said within the bounds of Biblical Truth.
That is a pretty big brush.
The Catholic Church, the Mormons, and the "Gay" Rainbow Church all believe as well as Apostolics to be in Biblical Truth.
Care to define it more closely?
Speaking only as to Apostolics.....this is where the debate has camped for a long time IMO. In fact it at times has consumed the board.
Shorts vs no shorts
Pants vs no pants
Tv vs no Tv
Boxers vs BVD's
Oreo's vs Chip's Ahoy
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