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03-15-2009, 06:53 PM
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Sister Alvear
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Re: Homestead Heritage in waco tx
no one would like to know what I know about that place...I donīt plan to go into details...however it would be easy to be swept away from an outside veiw...living there is another thing...
Of course some people like others to make their decisions...
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03-15-2009, 07:42 PM
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Re: Homestead Heritage in waco tx
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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear
no one would like to know what I know about that place...I donīt plan to go into details...however it would be easy to be swept away from an outside veiw...living there is another thing...
Of course some people like others to make their decisions...
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I know personally some of the people there. One of the ladies used to be my mom's (Pentecostal hairstyles) hairdresser. When my mom tried to ask her questions about her current life there, she was very, very evasive. Couldn't answer anything without 'the elders' approval. It really made me raise my eyebrows!
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03-15-2009, 07:49 PM
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Re: Homestead Heritage in waco tx
My husband's family has family there- Blair Adams is out of K Phillips' church , then went to New York to start a work. I do not know a lot about it, except what my husband's family says about it- but from what they have said - it is very close to a cult.
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03-15-2009, 08:51 PM
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Re: Homestead Heritage in waco tx
There's a place close to here (Selmer, TN) that's called Rose Creek Village that appears to be very similar. It draws people who want a simpler lifestyle, and is very self-contained. The men all take on Biblical names - not sure about the women. They used to own a restaurant in Selmer called "Another Realm" that had unbelievable food, but was pretty weird. It sold a lot of New Age type stuff, but they had all sorts of homemade crafts and foods. They looked like a cross between Mennonites and old line Pentecostals. They also had a midwife service that others in the community could hire out.
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03-15-2009, 09:42 PM
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Sister Alvear
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Re: Homestead Heritage in waco tx
Sherri when are you joining?....ha....love you.
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03-15-2009, 10:00 PM
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Re: Homestead Heritage in waco tx
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Originally Posted by Blubayou
My husband's family has family there- Blair Adams is out of K Phillips' church , then went to New York to start a work. I do not know a lot about it, except what my husband's family says about it- but from what they have said - it is very close to a cult.
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Ding, ding, ding! We have a winner folks. It always amuses me when people visit these wacko cultish groups of people and come away all impressed and thinking they have created some kind of great thing.
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
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03-15-2009, 10:02 PM
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Re: Homestead Heritage in waco tx
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You have our attention....? Howard Wheeler, an elder at HH was out of Phillips, was Blair also?
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I believe so. I have never heard KP say a negative word about them by the way. Their names have come up when he would tell stories about the early 70's and the hippie revival at his church.
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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04-12-2009, 01:17 PM
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Re: Homestead Heritage in waco tx
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Has anyone visted there. We did and it was pleasant, and like going into a time Zone. It was nice to see children not tainted by the world.
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I know people from there and have been to activities there. Everyone is very sweet. I love that they care for their elderly and don't put them in nursing homes.
The scary part is that if you join and then they "feel" God told them something and you disagree you have to leave and they believe you will go to hell because you broke your covenant with them/God. (They are Jesus in the flesh.)
You can't get baptized in Homestead Heritage unless you also pledge that you will never leave the church. Again, if you leave they believe you will go to hell.
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04-12-2009, 01:20 PM
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Sister Alvear
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Re: Homestead Heritage in waco tx
If by believing you were going to hell was all...it would be ok....however there is a lot more to it than that.
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04-12-2009, 02:43 PM
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Re: Homestead Heritage in waco tx
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Originally Posted by RandyWayne
These places scare me to death. For one they scare me in their own right but also because of the black eye they give Christianity in general.
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Scares me too. History has shown the cloistered groups tend toward cultism and I mean of the psychological kind, not to mention scary heresies. We need only look at Jim Jones, Koresh, the polygamists and so on. This stuff started way back with the montanists
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