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Old 06-21-2020, 10:08 PM
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I would leave. Call me a coward, call me what you will, but I’m not going to put myself in a situation that just going to escalate the violence. Now, you say there cowards at heart, you better hope they are because there are some that desire blood on the streets.
I don't call you a coward. But neither are you truly following the Biblical pattern of meekness.
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So, when you said conservatism, you really meant neoconservatism. And while there is some crossover between the two, they're not really one and the same.
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Old 06-22-2020, 05:50 AM
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Pure fantasy. Things don't work out that way. The mobs are being dirrected by the same people who direct most of the police. In fact, in many cases, the police are inside the mobs.

You "get word"? How do you "get word"? Fire shots over their heads? Do you own a firearm? A rifle bullet fired "over the head" can travel several miles and kill someone completely unconnected to anything that's going on.

Dude, you need to come back to reality. I understand the general sentiment, but your ideas if put in place will get people killed - the wrong people.
How to you get word? People who overheard the traitors' plans drive over and tell you. Furthermore, firing bullets over there is figurative to demonstrate how little it would take to make the cowards flee. But it is not fantasy to think this scenario might happen. Are you really saying nobody will defend their homes?

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I don't call you a coward. But neither are you truly following the Biblical pattern of meekness.
I wasn’t saying you called me a coward, it’s just a figure of speech.

Being meek according to the Bible, is being humble, gentle, etc..

Jesus was never part of social issues of their day, he didn’t speak on social issues. He spoke of the issues of the heart. As the church we’re not to put ourselves in those issues either. Look, we have protest, craziness going on, rioting, looting and so on. There is rebellion, and anger running rampant right now, it shouldn’t be in the church. I’ve heard them say, if they come after me they’re going to meet my guns?!?
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I wasn’t saying you called me a coward, it’s just a figure of speech.

Being meek according to the Bible, is being humble, gentle, etc..

Jesus was never part of social issues of their day, he didn’t speak on social issues. He spoke of the issues of the heart. As the church we’re not to put ourselves in those issues either. Look, we have protest, craziness going on, rioting, looting and so on. There is rebellion, and anger running rampant right now, it shouldn’t be in the church. I’ve heard them say, if they come after me they’re going to meet my guns?!?

You really are missing the point, aren't you? The church IS partaking of social issues by embracing the false narratives of Black Lives Matter. Protecting your home and family from thugs is not a social issue.

Moses was the meekest man alive and kicked butt.
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You really are missing the point, aren't you? The church IS partaking of social issues by embracing the false narratives of Black Lives Matter. Protecting your home and family from thugs is not a social issue.

Moses was the meekest man alive and kicked butt.
Ok, brother if we’re going to relate to the men and women the lord used prior to Christ. Then that means you can kill your enemies, You can go destroy cities, cut people in pieces. We’re not living on that side of history anymore.
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How to you get word? People who overheard the traitors' plans drive over and tell you. Furthermore, firing bullets over there is figurative to demonstrate how little it would take to make the cowards flee. But it is not fantasy to think this scenario might happen. Are you really saying nobody will defend their homes?
No, I'm saying the scenario you described is not realistic. "Overheard"? You and your neighbours aren't going to "overhear" anything, you need actual intel. You have to monitor the bad guys' comms, and that requires knowing where to look and infiltrating those comm systems. These people are organised paramilitary and revolutionary organizations backed by federal LEO and political money laundering groups. They aren't local nutjobs talking at the Burger King about when and where they plan on striking.

And again, shots fired over their head is pure fantasy. If you're going to shoot better make it count.

We're witnessing the attempted start of a civil war. Anything short of real genuine preparations and planning? Is just planning to fail. You call them cowards. Never underestimate people who are willing to organize and engage in violence. These leftist useful idiots have so far demonstrated far more intestinal fortitude and brass than their opponents, as demonstrated by the respective actions of both sides. Malheur demonstrated furthermore than only leftist revolutionaries can count on allies supporting them. So it's best to be realistic about the current situation, and plan accordingly.
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So, when you said conservatism, you really meant neoconservatism. And while there is some crossover between the two, they're not really one and the same.
There are no "paleoconservatives" in office anywhere. Conservatism is "neoconservatism". This is why the "conservatives" don't actually conserve anything. Modern liberals are neoliberals aka bolsheviks. Modern conservatives are neoconservatives and are today's version of the mensheviks.

They are all socialists and statists, so the differences are moot.
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You really are missing the point, aren't you? The church IS partaking of social issues by embracing the false narratives of Black Lives Matter. Protecting your home and family from thugs is not a social issue.

Moses was the meekest man alive and kicked butt.
The idea that the church should not be involved in social issues is a relatively novel idea (introduced by Anabaptists and Baptists in the 1700s) and it is the root cause of our current national problems.
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