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Old 01-05-2022, 09:09 AM
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Re: Who was Harry Morse ?

The Peniel Missions and other missions, such as the Volunteers of America and Salvation Army supplied many early Pentecostal ministers. These missions were part of the temperance movement.

Woman leadership in the temperance movement was acceptable and in the case of the Peniel missions, required for being the overseer of a local mission.

So when Pentecostalism debuted on the scene, those Pentecostal leaders with a Salvation Army type background saw no problem with women in ministry.

As far as I can tell, women in ministry was not even an issue. It was for the then beginning AOG. Harry Morse penned an early article on the subject. Gender issue debates did not otherwise prevent women from pastoring, evangelizing, preaching or being a foreign missionary.

Mind you, I am writing a collection of biographies, not a historical theology.

The behavior and activity of those persons of interest are the real focus of my research. Those persons had no problem with women in ministry at any level. My geographical focus is the West Coast and Pacific Northwest from 1900 - 1945. So my observations are based on those limitations.


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The Peniel Missions and other missions, such as the Volunteers of America and Salvation Army supplied many early Pentecostal ministers. These missions were part of the temperance movement.

Woman leadership in the temperance movement was acceptable and in the case of the Peniel missions, required for being the overseer of a local mission.

So when Pentecostalism debuted on the scene, those Pentecostal leaders with a Salvation Army type background saw no problem with women in ministry.

As far as I can tell, women in ministry was not even an issue. It was for the then beginning AOG. Harry Morse penned an early article on the subject. Gender issue debates did not otherwise prevent women from pastoring, evangelizing, preaching or being a foreign missionary.

Mind you, I am writing a collection of biographies, not a historical theology.

The behavior and activity of specific persons of interest are the real focus of my research. Those persons had no problem with women in ministry at any level. My geographical focus is the West Coast and Pacific Northwest from 1900 - 1945. So my observations are based on those limitations.


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Old 01-12-2022, 07:05 PM
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The Peniel Missions and other missions, such as the Volunteers of America and Salvation Army supplied many early Pentecostal ministers. These missions were part of the temperance movement.

Woman leadership in the temperance movement was acceptable and in the case of the Peniel missions, required for being the overseer of a local mission.

So when Pentecostalism debuted on the scene, those Pentecostal leaders with a Salvation Army type background saw no problem with women in ministry.

As far as I can tell, women in ministry was not even an issue. It was for the then beginning AOG. Harry Morse penned an early article on the subject. Gender issue debates did not otherwise prevent women from pastoring, evangelizing, preaching or being a foreign missionary.

Mind you, I am writing a collection of biographies, not a historical theology.

The behavior and activity of specific persons of interest are the real focus of my research. Those persons had no problem with women in ministry at any level. My geographical focus is the West Coast and Pacific Northwest from 1900 - 1945. So my observations are based on those limitations.


Society influences the church as much as any other factor.
So you are writing a history of a bunch of people who were all doctrinally fouled up. Sorta like writing a history of the Mormons and Jay Dubs in California?
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Old 01-25-2022, 10:37 AM
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I copied this from a gentlemen named Sam that posted this I believe back in 2008.

Here is their article on Joe Duke

Joe Duke

1912 ~ 1972

Reverend Joe Duke was born on January 14, 1912 in Catahola Parrish, Jonesville, Louisiana. He had no formal education. Being raised on Black River, Joe spent his young adult-hood as a fisherman. His adult life was spent fishing, singing, and preaching. He married Margaret Duke, and one son (Neal) was born to this union .

Brother Duke received the Holy Ghost during a revival conducted by Brother Sam Henderson. Afterwards he traveled for some time with Brother Henderson, helping conduct revival campaigns. He was also a companion in ministry with Brother Arthur W. Sassman.

Brother Duke participated in the miracle ministry. Throughout his ministry, hundreds of afflicted people were delivered from infirmities and desease under the operation of the gift of healing that he possessed. However, over the years, he gradually succumbed to blindness, but his ministry was never hindered by his personal affliction.

Brother Duke was greatly used by God, especially in the gifts of the Spirit. Under the anointing of the Holy Ghost, Brother Duke frequently operated through the gift of discernment, the gift of prophecy, and the word of knowledge. Through these gifts he was able to induce true repentance and open confession.

Brother Duke was a member of the Assemblies of the Lord Jesus Christ before joining the United Pentecostal Church in 1950. He later joined the Apostolic Ministers Fllowship, and remained with that group until his demise.

Brother Duke helped in the formation of new churches. One partucular time the UPC suspended his license because of his plain speech against sin. This good man of God fully gave himself to the work of the Lord. He literally broke down his body from his intense schedle of traveling, and many years of labor.

At the age of 60, and completely worn out physically, he appeared to be much older than he actually was. On May 5, 1972 Brother Duke was set free from his mortal body of corruption, and went home to his eternal rest.

Leaving behind a tremendous legacy, Elder Duke is best remembered for his ministry of healing, and the ability to move people to open confession. He was intensly set against power of sin, and was purposed to redirect the path of those who had wandered off course. Joe Duke was inducted into the Ministerial Hall of Fame in 2002.
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Old 01-25-2022, 10:43 AM
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I remember reading about this mans prayer life, how he would get up early and begin prayer, and then go in the house to eat breakfast, then go back to his place of prayer. He would later come in for lunch and rest a little bit, and then go out for prayer for the afternoon until dinner, he would then stay in for the night.

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Scott I brought Joe Duke up to see if in your studies you heard of this. And if you have, was this a common occurance?

This was originally posted by freeatlast back in 2008.

"I remember his practice in "praying people thru".

I was a new Christian back then and thought it strange that Br Duke would stop people praying and instruct them to say "Waliduea"

He would then tell them that Walideua meant "Thank God" in french.

He would have them say it over and over, faster and faster, while pushing their head back and forth with one hand and with the other hand shaking their arm up and down.

He said having them say "Waliduea" , put that "doulble lick" on their tongue.

We had 80 pray thru in his revival, not many stuck but they got to report the numbers.

Of course we would never have someone repeat Walideua over and over. We just have them say Jesus Jesus Jesus Jesus Jesus, Jesus Jesus Jesus Jesus Jesus, Jesus Jesus Jesus Jesus Jesus, Jesus Jesus Jesus Jesus Jesus ....... Jethth...... Hebeth....there now you it !!!!!!!!!

I've looked and looked but I can't find anything resembling one of our O/P altar services in the bible."

I may understand what Bro. Duke is doing, just trying to figure if this was common?
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Many years ago (I sound old), a young evangelist’s son told of a prominent UPCI lady-man-of-God who got caught instructing someone to say “la-la-la.”
I said she shouldn’t get any more speaking engagements.
He disagreed. Not a big deal, to some.
Big deal to me… but WhatdoIknow?
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Many years ago (I sound old), a young evangelist’s son told of a prominent UPCI lady-man-of-God who got caught instructing someone to say “la-la-la.”
I said she shouldn’t get any more speaking engagements.
He disagreed. Not a big deal, to some.
Big deal to me… but WhatdoIknow?
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just trying to figure if this was common?
Good God in Zion! I hope to God it wasn't.
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Good God in Zion! I hope to God it wasn't.
(N)ever hear of prayer talk?
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