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I HIGHLY recommend the book NEA: Trojan Horse in American Education. It DETAILS the origins and goals of the National Education Association, which essentially controls the public education system in America, from K all the way to grad school university. Their own words, statements, publications, speeches etc will provide all the proof anyone needs that the American public school system is an anti American, anti Christian communist front devoted to the destruction of the nation and its people.

http://www.alpha-phonics.com/neatrojan.htm
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Communist manifesto:

1. Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.
2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.
4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
5. Centralisation of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.
6. Centralisation of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State.
7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State; the bringing into cultivation of waste-lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
8. Equal liability of all to work. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of all the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the populace over the country.
10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children’s factory labour in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, &c, &c.

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But, you say, we destroy the most hallowed of relations, when we replace home education by social.

And your education! Is not that also social, and determined by the social conditions under which you educate, by the intervention direct or indirect, of society, by means of schools, &c.? The Communists have not invented the intervention of society in education; they do but seek to alter the character of that intervention, and to rescue education from the influence of the ruling class.

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Famous John Dewey, the "Father of Modern Education", was a Marxist:



Enter socialist John Dewey [1859-1952]. Dewey once plotted a long-range, comprehensive strategy that would reorganize primary education to serve the needs of socialization. “Change must come gradually,” he wrote. “To force it unduly would compromise its final success by favoring a violent reaction.” In other words, Dewey was saying that implementing socialistic ideas had to be done slowly; otherwise those who truly cared about educating children would become angry and resist.

JOHN DEWEY – THE “FATHER OF MODERN EDUCATION”

Longtime member of the American Federation of Teachers, atheist and “progressive” philosopher, John Dewey, has had tremendous influence on education. He taught at Columbia University, The University of Michigan, and Chicago University. Through the years, Dewey was a member of many Marxist organizations and a totalitarian socialist who wanted government to take over all education via government schools. Dewey rejected traditional religion and moral absolutes and is considered the epitome of liberalism by many historians, sometimes even portrayed as “dangerously radical.”

John Dewey and his colleagues are responsible for deciding that since high literacy was an obstacle to their progressive agenda, the NEA needed to reduce emphasis on reading. Dewey’s agenda has produced absolutely tragic results in American education. He and a few other progressives brought in the system of “social studies.” Naturally, this direction soon edged God out of public school curriculums as Dewey disparaged schooling that focused on traditional character development. It’s no wonder today’s youth have a distorted view of our founders.

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In his 1934 essay, “The Great American Prophet,” Dewey claimed capitalism imposed a restriction on freedom and “socialized industry and finance” would be the vehicle by which people would reach their full potential. How could he believe that, and why write so much about Dewey? He changed NEA curriculums!

Six years earlier John Dewey traveled to the former Soviet Union with others from the NEA and studied the communist education system. It was 1928, and the Soviet system of Socialist education was very similar to China’s system. Dewey was apparently manipulated and was not given the full picture as the Soviets only showed him what they planned for him to see. The Bolsheviks had invited Dewey and enjoyed his work so much they translated his books into Russian.

In Dr. Paul Kengor’s 2010 book, Dupes and the Religious Left, Dr. Paul Kengor talks about how the Bolsheviks rolled out the red carpet for Dewey in Russia and even implemented the same books by Dewey that teachers’ colleges and education departments in the United States have used to “train a century of public school educators.” When he came back praising their development of progressive education ideas, Kengor writes, “He did exactly what Stalin hoped, promoting the ‘new world’ he discovered in the USSR.”

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As part of his agenda, John Dewey co-authored and signed the Humanist Manifesto in 1933.

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Dewey was the first honorary president of the NEA and a major influence on school curriculums. What a drastic contrast between John Dewey and early American settlers whose primary goal and desire, where education was concerned, was for their children to be able to read the Bible proficiently and live its principles freely. In 1936, the NEA stated one of its reformed goals: “We stand for socializing the individual.” Apparently, Dewey and his ilk were effective enough to transform the system so that 88% of Christian children deny their faith by the time they graduate from college.

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Resources:

A Complete, Free, Online Christian Homeschool Curriculum: https://allinonehomeschool.com

Christian Homeschooling Curriculum: https://www.homeschool.com/resources01/christian.asp

Enlightium Christian Academy is a highly recommended program for parents interested in an accredited Online Private School for grades 3 through 12. The tuition starts at $75/month and is customized to meet your budget and requirements. https://www.enlightiumacademy.com/homeschool/#rgtext

Homeschooling for Free http://christianhomeschoolmoms.com/homeschooling-free/

Free Christian Homeschooling Material https://home-school.lovetoknow.com/F...oling_Material

A List of FREE Full Homeschooling Programs Online! http://www.blessedbeyondadoubt.com/f...ol-curriculum/

Totally Free, Complete Curriculum on the Internet https://www.crosswalk.com/family/hom...et-901770.html
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Charlotte Mason Method resources:

https://simplycharlottemason.com/wha...-mason-method/

https://www.joyinthehome.com/new-to-...on-start-here/

https://www.thehomeschoolmom.com/hom...-mason-method/

AmblesideOnline's Annotated Charlotte Mason Series (Charlotte Mason's works online) https://www.amblesideonline.org/CM/toc.html
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Classical Christian Homeschooling resources:

http://www.classical-homeschooling.org/contents.html

https://www.thehomeschoolmom.com/hom...homeschooling/

http://www.triviumpursuit.com

https://classicallyhomeschooling.com/dorothy-sayers/
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One of the greatest difficulties facing the Christian parent in taking charge of their child's education is the question of the Bible. Many curricula offer courses on "Bible" or theology, but oftentimes the parent has to carefully "correct" the texts used for the subject.

There is no need to purchase a curriculum for the subject of "Bible", all that is really needed is a Bible and a systematic method.

The first thing, and most important thing, is to understand that "Bible" is not just one subject among many others, like science, math, reading, grammar, history, etc. The reason for teaching the Bible is to lead one's child to a saving relationship with Christ and a continuous growth in the grace and knowledge of Him.

It is therefore of the utmost importance that the parents be living by Biblical truth. The Scriptures must form the "home charter" by which the entire family and household is governed. The parents must be living a life of obedience to the Word, and must demonstrate to their children that all questions and controversies and decisions and plans and the entire "lifestyle" of the family is decided by prayerful recourse to the Word.

Parents must take on the responsibility of actually discipling their children. Truth must be taught by both precept and example. By precept, in that the Word is the guide to all activity. And example, in that the parents demonstrate in their daily life how the Word is lived out (godliness).

To provide a Biblical education concerning the precepts of the Bible means to teach children what the Bible is, how it is used, how to study it, and how to apply it.

To provide a Biblical education concerning the example of godliness means to show children how the Bible's teachings affect decisions and lifestyle, by means of actual examples.

For example, one may teach what the Bible says about prayer, and then one must show how those teachings are applied by actually praying with your children regularly.

To teach children (or anyone, actually) how to handle the Word of God effectively, so as to learn it's teachings, the following program is recommended:

1. Introduce the Bible as "the Word of God", that is, God's message and instruction manual to us.
2. Teach by memorization and narration (drill and recitation) the main divisions of the Bible: Old Testament (before Christ) and New Testament (since Christ); OT is divided into the five Main Divisions: Law (Pentateuch, or Five Books of Moses), History (Joshua - Esther), Poetry and Wisdom (Job - Song of Solomon), Major Prophets (Isaiah - Ezekiel), and Minor Prophets (Hosea - Malachi). The NT is divided into Gospels (Matthew - John) and Epistles (Romans - Revelation). This gives a total of 7 Main Divisions. The NT can be further broken down as Epistles of Paul (Romans - Hebrews), General Epistles (1 Peter - Jude), and the Apocalypse (or, Prophecy, or Revelation - the book of Revelation).
3. Provide a daily family Bible reading schedule. A comprehensive and effective and mildly rigorous schedule can be found here - http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...ad.php?t=51557
4. Provide a weekly family Bible instructional schedule, where the father (if available) teaches the family from the Bible. A simple method can be to start with the Gospel of Mark, and go through the book chapter by chapter, verse by verse. Once completed, the book of Acts can be next, with that followed either by Romans, 1 Corinthians, Hebrews, or James. Eventually, the entire Bible should be gone through. This is important as it teaches the children by example how to teach the Bible to their own families.
5. Instruct the student to make a Bible Study Notebook. It can be simply a spiral bound blank notebook. You will assign a book. The Notebook will be dedicated to that book. They are to prayerfully read the book through once, from beginning to end. Then, they are to re-read the first chapter, and note the following:
Commands
Promises
Warnings
Examples
Under each heading they are to identify the verse(s) that present a command to be obeyed, a promise to be believed, a warning to be heeded, and examples to be followed (as well as examples NOT to be followed). They should copy the relevant statement from the Scripture and give the verse number for each category. They can read the chapter once looking for commands, then again looking for promises, and so forth. When completed, they should read the chapter again to make sure they do not miss anything. They can also write down anything that stands out to them. when the chapter notes have been completed, they should be able to narrate to you (orally, or written, depending on age and skill) what the chapter was about. You should work through one chapter with them, showing them how to do it, letting them watch you actually do it.
Upon completion of the books, they move on to another book. The particular schedule used should begin with rather short books and progress to longer. The goal is to eventually have a notebook completed for each book of the Bible.
6. Teach them how to use a Concordance. Strong's is great, no so much for the Dictionary aspect, but the actual Concordance (finding verses that contain a particular word, etc). E-Sword and My-Sword (phone app) are also good for this. Show them how to look up a word in the concordance and find where it appears in the Bible.
7. Whenever giving an assignment for reading, or writing, as part of another subject, try to include Bible passages as much as possible. For example, if the student needs to write a short essay, they can write an essay that requires using the Bible as the primary source text. If they need to study poetry, they can study metrical versions of the psalms. Try to incorporate Scripture into every subject as much as possible.
8. Periodically introduce "doctrinal studies", say once every three or four months. This will be an assignment where the student will be required to narrate (oral or written) the Biblical truth on a particular subject, after having used a concordance to find relevant verses on the subject. This will probably need to be modeled at first, where the parent will walk them through it and show how it is done. The student may or may not produce a Scripturally accurate presentation of the particular topic, but that will be corrected by the parent who will provide the relevant correcting verses, as well as using discussion (see next point). The goal is for the student to be able to sit down and present the Bible truth on a particular topic, so that for example if they find themselves witnessing they can walk through the Bible and show why and how whoever they are talking to can be saved. Essentially they are learning how to not only discover the Bible's teaching on particular subjects, but how to present and teach it to others.
9. Have family Bible discussions about something that is read in the daily Bible reading, or the weekly Bible teaching, or that was brought up in church, or in their own Bible study. The discussion should allow for questions about the meaning and application of the text. Differences of opinion are allowable but should be understood as differences in level of understanding, and perspective. The goal is to arrive at a correct understanding of the text. This may require some argumentation. If one person thinks a verse means one thing, but another person thinks it means another, then both sides should be prepared to discuss and even debate the text. This will be awkward at first if you are not used to it, but shortly the family will be able to have an intelligent Bible-based theological discussion. The father should try to guide the discussion by providing some general guidelines, such as "what we want to do is discover the meaning of the text, and how we each understand it, and see how we can all learn from one another". And then let the family go at it.
10. Use the historical portions of the Bible (Genesis, Exodus, the History Division of the OT, the Gospels, Acts, etc) to teach at least one year of "History". There are a number of resources that can help you identify the proper times, dates, etc of persons and events, many of them are free online or in libraries. You can also use a good Bible Dictionary or Encyclopedia if you have one. Correlate the historical event with any Major or Minor Prophet and their writings. Create a timeline and as the student studies a particular event in history, mark it on the timeline at the appropriate year, along with a reference to the appropriate Major or Minor Prophet. Or, create a Book of Centuries (google it, it's easy). Better yet, have the student create a Book of Centuries or timeline. Present Old Testament history, with the historical books of the Old Testament as the primary history text. Include additional references to Egyptian history, Greek, Roman, etc as they apply.

The method to learning is essentially narration: the student is exposed to information, studies the information, then orally narrates the information back to the teacher. It will be difficult at first but gets much easier with practice. The teacher will ask leading questions AFTER the narration is completed to cover anything major that was missed in the narration, or if the student is a beginner and has trouble narrating the questions can be asked to sort of "spur" the student on.

This approach, if done consistently, will provide the child with a better, more comprehensive and exemplary Biblical education than anything provided for by a curriculum. Especially as the child grows up in a family environment where the Bible is the governing charter or constitution of the family and its lifestyle.
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Gonna catch flak but thats not gonna keep me from speaking.



First off I'm at a place right now where I'm burnt out over the whole,"This or that action will 100% earn you a non refundable ticket to the eternal BBQ"



The early Church dealt with the adding of extra rules and regulations to the Gentiles in Acts 15 when some were trying to require Gentiles to not only be circumcised but to also follow the law of Moses.


It's interesting that the Elders declare that doing so would be tempting God.


Acts 15:10 Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?

11 But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.


Acts 15:20

“But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.”





23 And they wrote letters by them after this manner; The apostles and elders and brethren send greeting unto the brethren which are of the Gentiles in Antioch and Syria and Cilicia:

24 Forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, Ye must be circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no such commandment:


28 For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things;

29 That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.

30 So when they were dismissed, they came to Antioch: and when they had gathered the multitude together, they delivered the epistle:

31 Which when they had read, they rejoiced for the consolation.


From the context and passages we see that the decision reached seemed good not only to the Apostles and Elders but ALSO it specifically says that it seemed good to the HOLY GHOST to not put a yoke upon believers necks that they cannot bear and it even says that doing so is "tempting God"


Their words and apparently God's words since the Holy Ghost was/is in agreement.


Are there any examples of important figures in scripture that were educated in environments foreign and even pagan that were used by God and placed in those positions God?



Yes.


Daniel, 3 Hebrew children, Moses etc...even Christ was educated by doctors of the law that He later on butted heads with and opposed.


You don't see Mary and Joseph condemned to Hell for allowing Jesus to be educated by Scribes and Pharisees.


You don't see Jocabed burning in Hell for allowing Moses to be educated in the courts of Egypt...by your reasoning she should have ran off somewhere in the wilderness and raised him away from ANY Egyptian influence.


I am NOT pinning medals on the educational system man. It's modeled on the Prussian educational system and it was designed to created an obedient compliant work force that wouldn't push back and also a mindless souless military.


I was a victim of public schools and was horribly abused and assaulted sexually as a kid and subjected to brutal behavior from mentally and emotionally unstable adults that needed a whole lotta Jesus.


So no, I don't want my kid educated in a harmful system but the yoke you are attempting to place on believers that threatens their salvation if not labored under is NOT scriptural.


You have no mandate or authority to condemn someone to Hell that doesn't follow your pet doctrine.
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I was educated in public schools and was adamantly opposed to homeschooling. Until, due to job relocation, I moved my family across the country.
We purposely moved into a school district that received awards for being in the top 5% of public schools. The school that my children attended was also in the top 5% of schools.
They were awful.
The entire focus of the schools was in training the children how to take the standardized tests that were administered, so they could stay in the top 5%.
We lasted 1.5 years, before we took them out.
We then went through a combination of private and home schooling.
My oldest made a 33 on his ACT and his brother made a 27.
The had no problem with socialization and had a much easier time with transitioning to "real life", than their public school friends.
Both have never wavered in their faith and are soul winners and used greatly in their churches.
When I think of how the public schools have fallen, now, it would make my decision even easier.
I will say if you send your children to public schools then you better be spending time with them daily, teaching them the word of God.
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First off I'm at a place right now where I'm burnt out over the whole,"This or that action will 100% earn you a non refundable ticket to the eternal BBQ"



The early Church dealt with the adding of extra rules and regulations to the Gentiles in Acts 15 when some were trying to require Gentiles to not only be circumcised but to also follow the law of Moses.


It's interesting that the Elders declare that doing so would be tempting God.


Acts 15:10 Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?

11 But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.


Acts 15:20

“But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.”





23 And they wrote letters by them after this manner; The apostles and elders and brethren send greeting unto the brethren which are of the Gentiles in Antioch and Syria and Cilicia:

24 Forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, Ye must be circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no such commandment:


28 For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things;

29 That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.

30 So when they were dismissed, they came to Antioch: and when they had gathered the multitude together, they delivered the epistle:

31 Which when they had read, they rejoiced for the consolation.


From the context and passages we see that the decision reached seemed good not only to the Apostles and Elders but ALSO it specifically says that it seemed good to the HOLY GHOST to not put a yoke upon believers necks that they cannot bear and it even says that doing so is "tempting God"


Their words and apparently God's words since the Holy Ghost was/is in agreement.


Are there any examples of important figures in scripture that were educated in environments foreign and even pagan that were used by God and placed in those positions God?



Yes.


Daniel, 3 Hebrew children, Moses etc...even Christ was educated by doctors of the law that He later on butted heads with and opposed.


You don't see Mary and Joseph condemned to Hell for allowing Jesus to be educated by Scribes and Pharisees.


You don't see Jocabed burning in Hell for allowing Moses to be educated in the courts of Egypt...by your reasoning she should have ran off somewhere in the wilderness and raised him away from ANY Egyptian influence.


I am NOT pinning medals on the educational system man. It's modeled on the Prussian educational system and it was designed to created an obedient compliant work force that wouldn't push back and also a mindless souless military.


I was a victim of public schools and was horribly abused and assaulted sexually as a kid and subjected to brutal behavior from mentally and emotionally unstable adults that needed a whole lotta Jesus.


So no, I don't want my kid educated in a harmful system but the yoke you are attempting to place on believers that threatens their salvation if not labored under is NOT scriptural.


You have no mandate or authority to condemn someone to Hell that doesn't follow your pet doctrine.
Jedi - not arguing with your overall premise, but those scriptures need to be taken in context.
If that was truly all that was required, then all of Paul's writings were unnecessary.
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