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Old 10-19-2021, 11:34 PM
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What say ye? Can one love truth more than God?

Can one love truth more than they love God?
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Re: What say ye? Can one love truth more than God

Is lying or falsehood an attribute of God? If not, we must accept that He is the way, the truth and the life.


Truth is an immutable character trait of God. If God is indeed truth incarnate, then ones love for truth should ultimately put you on an intersecting trajectory with Him.


Its not like loving truth puts you into some weird orbit taking you away from Him.


If you love truth...wouldn't the ultimate experience be loving the ultimate distilation of that truth?
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Is lying or falsehood an attribute of God? If not, we must accept that He is the way, the truth and the life.
God is more than truth. In which case it would seem that one could love the truth 'part of God' more so than 'the rest of God'. That seems awfully close to idolatry to me.

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Truth is an immutable character trait of God. If God is indeed truth incarnate, then ones love for truth should ultimately put you on an intersecting trajectory with Him.
A rocket can be fired from 1000's of miles away and still be on a trajectory for it's target. That doesn't mean it's ever going to be close to that target before it runs out of fuel.

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Its not like loving truth puts you into some weird orbit taking you away from Him.
There are many unanswered questions. God is also silent on much. If one values truth then there's not alot of difference to the truthseeker between a 'God that doesn't know' and a 'God that doesn't answer'.

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If you love truth...wouldn't the ultimate experience be loving the ultimate distilation of that truth?
Can one love learning without loving the teacher or how he teaches?
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Can one love truth more than they love God?
I think we must first establish what is truth.
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God is more than truth. In which case it would seem that one could love the truth 'part of God' more so than 'the rest of God'. That seems awfully close to idolatry to me.



A rocket can be fired from 1000's of miles away and still be on a trajectory for it's target. That doesn't mean it's ever going to be close to that target before it runs out of fuel.



There are many unanswered questions. God is also silent on much. If one values truth then there's not alot of difference to the truthseeker between a 'God that doesn't know' and a 'God that doesn't answer'.



Can one love learning without loving the teacher or how he teaches?
One must love God before he or she can love truth.
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I think we must first establish what is truth.
God's word is truth. Jesus is the way and the truth. He is the Word made flesh. He is inseparable from the truth.


John 17:17
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17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.

Psalm 138:1-3
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138 I will praise thee with my whole heart: before the gods will I sing praise unto thee.
2 I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy lovingkindness and for thy truth: for thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name.

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Re: What say ye? Can one love truth more than God

You don’t love truth. Truth is not a person you can enjoy its presence or a thing you can enjoy looking at or feeling it or doing. When people say they love the truth, it is figurative speech, and they mean they are pursuing the knowledge of truth in order to achieve something they want: e.g. justice, correct guidance in some matter, power to do, etc…
In the spiritual sense, if you are pursuing the knowledge of truth is because you have a spiritual motivation, you want to achieve something, e.g. knowing the true Creator.
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God created man in His image, but man wants God to be made in his image.
Man loves man, and he hates anything that disagrees with him. When God came down to pay man a visit, man got upset and crucified Him. As Brother Adkins posted, "we must first establish what is truth." So, let the hair pulling begin
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Can one love truth more than they love God?
The truth includes this:

Deuteronomy 6:4-5 KJV
Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord : [5] And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.

If you love the truth, you will love God supremely. If you do not love God supremely, you do not love the truth.
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God is more than truth. In which case it would seem that one could love the truth 'part of God' more so than 'the rest of God'. That seems awfully close to idolatry to me.



A rocket can be fired from 1000's of miles away and still be on a trajectory for it's target. That doesn't mean it's ever going to be close to that target before it runs out of fuel.



There are many unanswered questions. God is also silent on much. If one values truth then there's not alot of difference to the truthseeker between a 'God that doesn't know' and a 'God that doesn't answer'.



Can one love learning without loving the teacher or how he teaches?
Seems you are making God out to just be a means to some end. THAT would be idolatry.
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