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Old 07-27-2021, 04:23 PM
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Re: The fate of empires

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I've heard it said (not sure by whom) "Hard times produce great men, great men produce good times, good times produce weak men, weak men produce hard times...."
Didn't the fiction writer Michael Hopf pen those words? He wrote Western Fiction "Old Cowboys never die, the just smell that way?" I do believe he wrote those words in one of his novels.
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Yeah those start-end dates are questionable. The author needs to be more specific about what it means beginning and end.
Why isn’t Egypt in there?
Did you read Sir John Glubb's book?

Why isn't Egypt? Maybe you should read the book fella.
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Rome didn't really "fall" it morphed into nation states as the so called barbarians divided it up in late antiquity.

The US has morphed into a technocracy or an oligarchy.
It fell. While a government might resemble another government, or one kingdom resembling another. They aren't the same exact government. Rome had a totally different system than ours. Even before Julius Caesar crossed the Rubicon. Rome differs from what we have today If we had old Romans in our senate Biden, Kamala, and their cabinet would've of been declared enemy of the state. Our government cannot request its people go out and murder an official. Similarities can't be seen as sameness. Also for something to "morph" means it takes another shape. So while there are similarities we aren't the old Roman Empire. Yet, what Sir John Glubb was trying to point out is how there is a process of any empire. Whether or not his numbers line up he nails it on the process. There we have no argument.
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