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Old 05-16-2009, 12:06 PM
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When were the angels created?

Someone asked me this today...what do you think?
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Old 05-16-2009, 01:45 PM
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Re: When were the angels created?

before everything else?

Many scholars believe Job refers to them existing before creation

Everywhere in the Old Testament the existence of angels is assumed. The creation of angels is referred to in Psa_148:2, Psa_148:5 (compare Col_1:16). They were present at the creation of the world, and were so filled with wonder and gladness that they “shouted for joy” (Job_38:7).
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Old 05-16-2009, 01:48 PM
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Re: When were the angels created?

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Someone asked me this today...what do you think?
I've always assumed they were created before humans.
Psalm 8 talks about man being created a little lower than the angels. That does not say the angels were here first and then man was created a little lower than they but I think it infers that.
Job 38 speaks of when God created the worlds and the morning stars and angels sang for joy. I take that to mean that the angels were present before creation of our earth and therefore before humans.
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Re: When were the angels created?

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Someone asked me this today...what do you think?
It was definitely BC (Before Creation)
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before everything else?

Many scholars believe Job refers to them existing before creation

Everywhere in the Old Testament the existence of angels is assumed. The creation of angels is referred to in Psa_148:2, Psa_148:5 (compare Col_1:16). They were present at the creation of the world, and were so filled with wonder and gladness that they “shouted for joy” (Job_38:7).
My feelings also.
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Re: When were the angels created?

That is what I read to the person but I do not think he agreed...just said he would think about it.
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Re: When were the angels created?

Many rabbis when reading of the heavens being created on day 2 of creation say that that is when GOD created the angels.

I am not sure on this matter though.

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Re: When were the angels created?

yes, I read that today on a jewish site..
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Re: When were the angels created?

Here is what is said is depiction of Lucifer in a judgment on king of Tyrus.

Eze 28:12 Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty.
Eze 28:13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.
Eze 28:14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.
Eze 28:15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.


What it says could not be speaking of the king of Tyrus. When this happened is hard to say but he was in Eden the garden of God. Was the fall after the creation? He was in Eden and perfect in all his ways. Would Adam and Eve have known him before his fall and familiar with him. That is why they did not fear him.

Eze 28:16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.
Eze 28:17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.
Eze 28:18 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffic; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.
Eze 28:19 All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more.



Isa 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
Isa 14:13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
Isa 14:14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
Isa 14:15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
Isa 14:16 They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;

Heb 1:7 And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.

Heb 1:13 But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool?
Heb 1:14 Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?

Rev 20:2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
Rev 20:3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.


Just a few verses besides the ones named above

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Re: When were the angels created?

but when was he created?
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