Apostolic Churches & Congregational Growth

[Bro Flame]

Originally Posted by diakonos

Who leads when the wife is the preacher?

Jesus.

[Bro Flame]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Is she more anointed than you?

In what way?

The Lord does use her to sing and play. She can play practically any instrument she picks up. The Holy Ghost moves when she sings and people in the church get a blessing.

She has a gift to pray for people, and there have been times the Lord has used her to interpret a message given in tongues.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Bro Flame

In what way?

The Lord does use her to sing and play. She can play practically any instrument she picks up. The Holy Ghost moves when she sings and people in the church get a blessing.

She has a gift to pray for people, and there have been times the Lord has used her to interpret a message given in tongues.

She does the "my people, my people" or does she speak Elizabethan English?

Where in the Bible is there the "gift" of praying for people? Is it right next to women pastors and apostles?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Bro Flame

Jesus.

No.

[diakonos]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

She does the "my people, my people" or does she speak Elizabethan English?

I can’t with you… this early.

[Bro Flame]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

She does the "my people, my people" or does she speak Elizabethan English?

Where in the Bible is there the "gift" of praying for people? Is it right next to women pastors and apostles?

Brother you're about impossible.

Perhaps it isn't outlined specifically in scripture that there is a "gift" of praying for people. Maybe I should say Jesus uses her in such a way to pray for people, often in serious times during their lives.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Bro Flame

Brother you're about impossible.

Perhaps it isn't outlined specifically in scripture that there is a "gift" of praying for people. Maybe I should say Jesus uses her in such a way to pray for people, often in serious times during their lives.

What he's saying is that the idea of a "woman preacher" is unscriptural and wrong, a violation of the apostolic instructions concerning proper gender roles in the church, a sign of worldliness and apostasy in the church, and weakness and effeminacy in the men of the church.

Nothing wrong with praying for folks, but a woman is not to be in leadership over the congregation or teach the congregation. She is to set an example for and be an instructor of younger women, and can certainly serve the congregation in whatever capacity God empowers her with - subject to the rule of Scripture:

1 Timothy 2:11-15 KJV
Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. [12] But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. [13] For Adam was first formed, then Eve. [14] And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. [15] Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Bro Flame

Brother you're about impossible.

Perhaps it isn't outlined specifically in scripture that there is a "gift" of praying for people.

But that's my point. The stupidity of Santa Claus thread, wasn't aimed on being ugly. It's the insanity of Good Old American Make It Up as you Go Along Churchanity.

Originally Posted by Bro Flame

Maybe I should say Jesus uses her in such a way to pray for people, often in serious times during their lives.

Maybe you should say? You know that'll never happen, because it's programmed in you. As unbiblical as Santa Claus, Easter Bunny, and Lucky Charms Sweet Marshmallow surprises. You say what you say, not because it is Thus saith the LORD. You say what you say because it is acceptable to all those around you. No one corrects you, because they don't see any harm in it, number one, and number two, they've been saying the same thing for years. Also the unscriptural female ministerial leadership, it's not up for debate in your group. You and your crew have maybe about four verses you employ to prop up your beliefs? You most likely can use the same four verses to prove celebrating Jesus' birth on December 25th. Doesn't truth mean truth?

[n david]

Originally Posted by Bro Flame

P.S. I'm not initiating this discussion as church-bashing.

How it started ...

Originally Posted by Bro Flame

Speaking of that church specifically, they have strong and sometimes weird standards and doctrines, but have next-to-no love whatsoever. Their church is sadly full of cliques and racists.

Let me elaborate.

How it's going ...

[Bro Flame]

Originally Posted by n david

How it started ...



How it's going ...

But am I bashing by stating facts?