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Old 03-04-2012, 03:16 AM
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Why Baptize In Jesus Name

Why Baptize In Jesus Name

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More from Pastor Anthony Mangun...why every one should be baptized in Jesus' Name. http://www.thepentecostals.org http://www.whitesteeple.com/
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He is right that we don't have a quote of anyone saying "I baptize you in the name of the Father Son & Holy Spirit"... However there is no quote of what was said at all - ever. We can only hypothesize What was meant by "in Jesus name" and Matt 28:19, when it comes to the actual words to be spoken.
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He is right that we don't have a quote of anyone saying "I baptize you in the name of the Father Son & Holy Spirit"... However there is no quote of what was said at all - ever. We can only hypothesize What was meant by "in Jesus name" and Matt 28:19, when it comes to the actual words to be spoken.
That is utter nonsence Hoovie. Not only do we have scripture that clearly indicates how the early church baptizes, but we have the record of the catholic church!

Even the Catholic Church agrees that before at least 200AD EVERYONE bapitzed in the Name of Jesus. Even the trinitarians agree with that.
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He is right that we don't have a quote of anyone saying "I baptize you in the name of the Father Son & Holy Spirit"... However there is no quote of what was said at all - ever. We can only hypothesize What was meant by "in Jesus name" and Matt 28:19, when it comes to the actual words to be spoken.
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That is utter nonsence Hoovie. Not only do we have scripture that clearly indicates how the early church baptizes, but we have the record of the catholic church!

Even the Catholic Church agrees that before at least 200AD EVERYONE bapitzed in the Name of Jesus. Even the trinitarians agree with that.
Nonsense? Really?

Maybe you should read my post again.

I am not saying they did not call on the name of Jesus at baptism - I believe they did, especially the one getting baptised. Yet, we are left without any specific formula when it comes to exact wording for the ceremony. Even OPs use variations to this very day.
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By the Grace of GOD, my wife and my children will be baptized in the Name of Jesus Christ, just like the Bible says.
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He is right that we don't have a quote of anyone saying "I baptize you in the name of the Father Son & Holy Spirit"... However there is no quote of what was said at all - ever. We can only hypothesize What was meant by "in Jesus name" and Matt 28:19, when it comes to the actual words to be spoken.
Acts 22:16 clearly shows that Paul is being told to call or involke the name.
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Acts 22:16 clearly shows that Paul is being told to call or involke the name.
Acts 22:16 clearly teaches that the individual is calling on the name of Jesus.

Act 22:16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

'Thou' is calling on the name of the Lord, not someone else.
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Acts 22:16 clearly teaches that the individual is calling on the name of Jesus.

Act 22:16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

'Thou' is calling on the name of the Lord, not someone else.
This is in the middle voice NO ONE baptizes himself and the one doing the baptizing is invoking the name. The baptizer was told to baptize in the name. Mt. 28:19 James 2:7 & Acts 15:17 speaks of the name being invoked over them.
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This is in the middle voice NO ONE baptizes himself and the one doing the baptizing is invoking the name. The baptizer was told to baptize in the name. Mt. 28:19 James 2:7 & Acts 15:17 speaks of the name being invoked over them.
The passage wasn't speaking of the baptizor at any point, Paul was speaking of his encounter with Ananias and Ananias' instructions to him to be baptized, among other things.

Act 22:16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

"Thou" and "thy" directly relate to the person who is calling on the name of the Lord, Paul in this instance. NOTHING in the passage speaks of the words the baptizor is to utter over Paul at his baptism. The focus of the scripture is always concerning Paul, the focus never changes to the personal actions of the baptzor.

This translation says it best....

Act 22:16 'Now why do you delay? Get up and be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on His name.'
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Re: Why Baptize In Jesus Name

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Acts 22:16 clearly teaches that the individual is calling on the name of Jesus.

Act 22:16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

'Thou' is calling on the name of the Lord, not someone else.
Makes sense. I've heard this before, and it holds water, no pun intended.
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