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Old 10-29-2007, 10:04 PM
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It's certainly interesting to sit where I'm at and read and hear all the comments being made.

I know enough to know that the "issue" isn't always necessarily the issue. Certainly not all of it anyhow.
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This year was the first time legalism was challenged. Legalism loses every challenge because it is based on faulty premises. The same legalistic spirit who can scare the "hell" out of people could not use the same intimidation tactics with their peers. The moderates realized no matter what they did, the legalists would not be satisfied until every opinion contrary to theirs was destroyed.
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Hmm, Bro Smith thinks the only way healing can come is to capitulate to those who are leaving. Somehow that seems wrong to me.

Why not stay and work things out?
Isn't this what has happened in the past, yet no unity was to be found?
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BRO. RKS...
I love you...and I know you love me....
What has happened will turn out to be a very healthy thing for ALL involved.
It will NEVER be reversed...there is no turning back.
Attitude will be our altitude!

The far right has wanted their own thing for years....
They could not get elected in, so they feel its best to move on....

MOST of what we are seeing is political jockeying.....for positions.....positions they could have not gotten had they stayed in.

I love these men and wish them well...BUT...the future of the United Pentecostal Church is brighter then it has ever been...from the merger of 1945 to present...WE have never been more poised to win the lost and impact our world.

Just sit back,,,take a deep breath...keep winning Conroe...BUT watch...you will see...its gonna be great!

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The United Pentecostal Church Needs a Healer


Shocked silence filled the conference when the announcement was made….

The resolution passed….

Those there, will never forget the sudden vacuum….

Time only will tell what really happened in that moment….

Some declare Ichabod…..

Others Revival….

I personally feel our movement was swept with a spirit of confusion….

We all have been confused since the vote….

We have all grieved….

However….

Such a decision will not be without consequence….

The consequence may well be more painful than any really understood….

Unity has been called for….

Global Impact desired….

But now division is greater than ever….

Now we hear of a great convocation in Tulsa…..

Great men from the east coast are leaving….

Great men from the west are leaving….

Great men from the south as well….

Great men from all over…..

Leaving……

Will the UPCI loose 100 ….500….1000….

Or more….

Now, many men who favored the resolution realize that those leaving had promised to do so before the vote….

The leavers are only keeping promises….

I have not heard from any who regret voting No…

I have heard from many who regret voting Yes…

“If we had only known”, one said an hour ago….

Brethren it appears there will be a major exodus…..

Sadly all will suffer…

I have come to a new conclusion today…

We need a healer…

Blessed are the peacemakers….

The United Pentecostal Church Needs A Healer….

Brethren….

Some are saying the 2000 seat convention center in Tulsa will not be large enough…

What if such predictions are true and we see over 1000 UPCI credentialed men make some sort of commitment to leave….

The UPCI will suffer greatly….

The United Pentecostal Church Needs A Healer….

If indeed unity is a mandate….

Then should not unity come from World Evangelism Center….

Indeed the United Pentecostal Church Needs A Healer….

General Superintendent Haney….

Lead the way to healing….

Go to Tulsa and tell the brethren you will lead the charge in reversing Tulsa’s decision….

Pastor Mangun….

Use your platform this year at Because of the Times to help heal the UPCI….

Without a healer….

We are divided and weakened….

Two organizations will never be united….

Rather both….

Untied….

The United Pentecostal Church Needs A Healer….

Is there a voice….

Is there a man …..

Who can stand and serve as healer….

Somewhere within the UPCI is a man with a voice who is able to help bring healing….

Will the leadership come from WEC….

The General Superintendent….

The General Secretary….

Alexandria….

Indianapolis….

Home or Foreign Missions….

Indeed the UPCI must have a healer from within….

The healing will not come from those convening in Tulsa….

The course they choose was selected for them….

Brethren….

The United Pentecostal Church International Needs a Healer….


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You sound like JFK. "Ask not what the UPC can do for you, but what you can do for the UPC?"

Why is it that men will follow what was before them because the men had vision for their day and time.

Then men continue to follow the old beat down path.

Then when men of God hear again the voice of God a fresh.

They then say it is not of God!

A fire will heal the land, it adds nutrients to the soil that will bring a greener forest to thrive.

Even lightening adds nitrogen to the soil that is needed.

Lightening needs to strike.

A healing will not take place nor will unity until their is a clearing of the land.

Once again even Jesus spoke from the boat so the his voice, the voice of the God could be carried and amplified so the masses could hear him.

If there would have been TV in his day he would have spoke for the whole world to hear him....

In Milwaukee they lower the radio broadcast waves after 8PM.

It is the FCC regulation.

Why because stations with the same call numbers get crossed over the lake.

I hear stations at 10PM from Detroit like they are Milwaukee stations.

Because sould and radio waves carry futher at night accross the water....

Many of times Jesus spoke it was in the evening from a boat...

Makes sense to me.....

Use what is available in your time....
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Old 10-29-2007, 11:06 PM
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Now, many men who favored the resolution realize that those leaving had promised to do so before the vote….

The leavers are only keeping promises….

I have not heard from any who regret voting No…

I have heard from many who regret voting Yes…

“If we had only known”, one said an hour ago….

Could it be that many of the regrets is because they have hurt their brothers? Not that they regret the vote. I think most will really say that they don't want these brothers leaving. It will hurt, but it is a choise not a requirement for these people to leave.
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