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Old 02-06-2015, 06:13 PM
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ILG - Vaccine Hysteria

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How vaccine hysteria could spark totalitarian nightmare
Exclusive: Lee Hieb, M.D., shares 'dirty little secret' immunization pushers don't reveal

1. Since 2005 (and even before that), there have been no deaths in the U.S. from measles, but there have been 86 deaths from MMR vaccine – 68 of them in children under 3 years old. And there were nearly 2,000 disabled, per the aforementioned VAERS data.

http://www.wnd.com/2015/02/how-vacci...ian-nightmare/
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Old 02-06-2015, 07:01 PM
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Re: ILG - Vaccine Hysteria

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This is written by a doctor and is well done on facts!

How vaccine hysteria could spark totalitarian nightmare
Exclusive: Lee Hieb, M.D., shares 'dirty little secret' immunization pushers don't reveal

1. Since 2005 (and even before that), there have been no deaths in the U.S. from measles, but there have been 86 deaths from MMR vaccine – 68 of them in children under 3 years old. And there were nearly 2,000 disabled, per the aforementioned VAERS data.

http://www.wnd.com/2015/02/how-vacci...ian-nightmare/
I had the measles and mumps as a child and don't remember them being that bad.
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Old 02-06-2015, 08:55 PM
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I had the measles and mumps as a child and don't remember them being that bad.
I did too and don't remember it being anything other than something everyone got and got over. Everyone is in hysterics calling a small number an epidemic.

I read a comment by a nurse who said she kept a journal of patients coming in and getting immunized. She said that 7 to 10 days later, (85%) of those patients were back in the office with all sorts of problems - upper respiratory infections, etc. They are supposed to report these things, but she was instructed by the doctors not to do it.

My daughter had a reaction after her MMR vaccine. She couldn't breathe and was turning blue. I can't recall now, but it seems this went on for several weeks. It wasn't medication, but the Lord that healed her. I didn't know what to do when nothing was working. I had a tent over her bed and woke up in the nights to see if she was alive. One evening, I was driving down the highway and she began to cough and turned to me with wide eyes. I felt the presence of God and reached over, laid my hand toward her and said, "I command you to be healed." She was healed from that moment.

There is no one who can convince me that vaccines are safe. There are too many diseases that have no answer. We know that what goes into our body is the problem. I look at vaccines as one of those problems. It's too much toxicity not to be.
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Old 02-06-2015, 09:57 PM
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I've been researching and agonizing over vaccination shots for a few months now. My 5-year old daughter hasn't received the MMR vaccine, and won't ever if we're still allowed to choose.

She did get the polio and other vaccines as a baby. And today, after a lot of prayer, and seeing what shots I had as a child (much, much less than what's recommended now), our twins received some shots. But not before I took some anointing oil and prayed over them at home before going to the pediatrician.

We did not allow the Hep B shots, either at birth or today. It makes no sense for a baby to get a shot for a sexually transmitted disease.

I'm still very nervous, but trusting God to keep them from harm.
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Old 02-06-2015, 10:00 PM
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Re: ILG - Vaccine Hysteria

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This is written by a doctor and is well done on facts!

How vaccine hysteria could spark totalitarian nightmare
Exclusive: Lee Hieb, M.D., shares 'dirty little secret' immunization pushers don't reveal

1. Since 2005 (and even before that), there have been no deaths in the U.S. from measles, but there have been 86 deaths from MMR vaccine – 68 of them in children under 3 years old. And there were nearly 2,000 disabled, per the aforementioned VAERS data.

http://www.wnd.com/2015/02/how-vacci...ian-nightmare/
  • Measles is one of the leading causes of death among young children even though a safe and cost-effective vaccine is available.
  • In 2013, there were 145 700 measles deaths globally – about 400 deaths every day or 16 deaths every hour.
  • Measles vaccination resulted in a 75% drop in measles deaths between 2000 and 2013 worldwide.
  • In 2013, about 84% of the world's children received one dose of measles vaccine by their first birthday through routine health services – up from 73% in 2000.
  • During 2000-2013, measles vaccination prevented an estimated 15.6 million deaths making measles vaccine one of the best buys in public health.
http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs286/en/

BTW IF...IF there were no deaths due to measles...maybe its because so many were vaccinated and never got it?
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Re: ILG - Vaccine Hysteria

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I had the measles and mumps as a child and don't remember them being that bad.
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I did too and don't remember it being anything other than something everyone got and got over. Everyone is in hysterics calling a small number an epidemic.

I read a comment by a nurse who said she kept a journal of patients coming in and getting immunized. She said that 7 to 10 days later, (85%) of those patients were back in the office with all sorts of problems - upper respiratory infections, etc. They are supposed to report these things, but she was instructed by the doctors not to do it.

My daughter had a reaction after her MMR vaccine. She couldn't breathe and was turning blue. I can't recall now, but it seems this went on for several weeks. It wasn't medication, but the Lord that healed her. I didn't know what to do when nothing was working. I had a tent over her bed and woke up in the nights to see if she was alive. One evening, I was driving down the highway and she began to cough and turned to me with wide eyes. I felt the presence of God and reached over, laid my hand toward her and said, "I command you to be healed." She was healed from that moment.

There is no one who can convince me that vaccines are safe. There are too many diseases that have no answer. We know that what goes into our body is the problem. I look at vaccines as one of those problems. It's too much toxicity not to be.
People die from the flu too. Just because you survived and it was not that bad does not mean you can't die from it
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Old 02-06-2015, 10:05 PM
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Re: ILG - Vaccine Hysteria

How am I supposed to take this person seriously? She does not sound objective nor professional

1. The voices shrieking to forcibly vaccinate people are the same voices shrieking to support a woman’s right to choose abortion under Roe v. Wade. If a woman’s body is sacrosanct, if she has the right to choose to deliver a child or not, if she has total authority over her body, how can she not have the right to accept or refuse a vaccination?
Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2015/02/how-vacci...RX1prrEdyP0.99

"Shieking"? She should be here arguing with Walks In Islam or some other...the only ones pushing for immunization are those that believe in Abortion? talk about poisoning the well.
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Prax, per VAERS, there have been 0 (ZERO) deaths from measles in the US in the past decade. However, there have been 108 deaths (96 from MMR alone) from vaccines in the past decade.

Again, ZERO deaths from measles.
108 deaths from measles vaccines.
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This includes a measles outbreak in 2007 and the current outbreak.
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