IMHO, JD did cross way over the line with the dinner comment. That is not in keeping with what I have seen him as over the years. He came back and admitted as much and apologized (which is more in keeping with what I would expect from him).
That being said, I would hearken back to the thread I started asking whether the right was actually trying to make it impossible to be black and a GOP supporter. I think that was when Limbaugh (who is pretty influential and consequential) called the President a "little boy". I think by now, anybody in the public spotlight has to know how those types of statements will be perceived by a lot of people. There is simply too much precedence to ignore.
To go on national TV with AL Sharpton of all people...AL Sharpton and throw that out there is either calculated or incredibly insensitive...
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I totally agree.
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Jermyn I love you, and know it may take a while but we as Christians will overcome these earthly problems when Jesus returns. Don't let ignorance and hatred cause a division with your brothers and sisters in Christ. Praying for you, always.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
IMHO, JD did cross way over the line with the dinner comment. That is not in keeping with what I have seen him as over the years. He came back and admitted as much and apologized (which is more in keeping with what I would expect from him).
That being said, I would hearken back to the thread I started asking whether the right was actually trying to make it impossible to be black and a GOP supporter. I think that was when Limbaugh (who is pretty influential and consequential) called the President a "little boy". I think by now, anybody in the public spotlight has to know how those types of statements will be perceived by a lot of people. There is simply too much precedence to ignore.
To go on national TV with AL Sharpton of all people...AL Sharpton and throw that out there is either calculated or incredibly insensitive...
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and what I am saying is that calling James Buchannon insentsitive is like calling the color black, a tiny bit dark.
JB wrote a book a few years ago laminting the fact that white people were losing America....JB isnt exactly a champion for better race relations...
He is a MSNBC Hack...
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and what I am saying is that calling James Buchannon insentsitive is like calling the color black, a tiny bit dark.
JB wrote a book a few years ago laminting the fact that white people were losing America....JB isnt exactly a champion for better race relations...
He is a MSNBC Hack...
That's kind of what I'm saying. There is a part of me that wonders whether a lot of this is calculated. There is no way that someone like Pat Buchanan goes on a show with someone like Al Sharpton and accidentally says something that can be taken as racially tinged. They probably rehearsed the bit and are both laughing all the way to the bank. Things like this are probably a ratings bonanza. Both guys get googled and both are relevant for a few weeks...then it's time to do it all over again.
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That's kind of what I'm saying. There is a part of me that wonders whether a lot of this is calculated. There is no way that someone like Pat Buchanan goes on a show with someone like Al Sharpton and accidentally says something that can be taken as racially tinged. They probably rehearsed the bit and are both laughing all the way to the bank. Things like this are probably a ratings bonanza. Both guys get googled and both are relevant for a few weeks...then it's time to do it all over again.
Reality TV
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
Hey Pastor, for the record, I'd never purposely disrespect, insult or hurt you either.
To answer your question, yes I am serious.
JD, I don't believe you are being disrespectful. I just can't believe you would vote to reelect BO on the basis that he has been disrespected by GOP people or because of racism among GOPers. Basically you are saying that b/c of racial issues you will vote for a man who is almost in every way the opposite of what you believe politically. Race and racism aside can you say BO espouses what you believe in politically, economically, and governmentally? If he doesn't resemble you much beyond ethnicity, why would you vote for him? There are a lot of Republicans I disagree with and don't represent my views but I couldn't vote for BO any more than I could for David Duke. They are two extremes that could never get my vote. If the GOP nominates anyone even marginally conservative I will vote for them over BO. JD, do you think this presidency has been good for America? Do you think his policies and governance have been successful? I just can't believe you would for him b/c of Pat B or a handful of Nimrods here who are hicks and rednecks.
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Charnock presents a good point; I, too, sense racism from the very beginning. So, when you speak of issues that include "us" vs "them" with color of skin mentioned, yes, it will very much so appear as a race-card discussion. You opened the thread and others have chimed in to swing the pendullum the other way.
My Brother,
I open a thread discussing the racially tinged disrespect that our President is experiencing.
I state that I understand how Holy Spirit filled Black Christians vote Democrat.
You start to talk about blacks being dependent on the government.
So, somehow there is a connection in your mind (and apparently in the minds of others) between the three points above.
I don't understand the connection in your mind, esspecially when most of the folks I know who vote also work and pay taxes, just like most other people.
My decision to renounce my affiliation with the GOP is based off of the race-tinged disrespect that I have witnessed people of the GOP to display, repeatedly.
Please explain the connection in your mind.
Sister Charnock, please feel free to explain the connection too.
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I open a thread discussing the racially tinged disrespect that our President is experiencing.
I state that I understand how Holy Spirit filled Black Christians vote Democrat.
You start to talk about blacks being dependent on the government.
So, somehow there is a connection in your mind (and apparently in the minds of others) between the three points above.
I don't understand the connection in your mind, esspecially when most of the folks I know who vote also work and pay taxes, just like most other people.
My decision to renounce my affiliation with the GOP is based off of the race-tinged disrespect that I have witnessed people of the GOP to display, repeatedly.
Please explain the connection in your mind.
Sister Charnock, please feel free to explain the connection too.
I open a thread discussing the racially tinged disrespect that our President is experiencing.
I state that I understand how Holy Spirit filled Black Christians vote Democrat.
You start to talk about blacks being dependent on the government.
So, somehow there is a connection in your mind (and apparently in the minds of others) between the three points above.
I don't understand the connection in your mind, esspecially when most of the folks I know who vote also work and pay taxes, just like most other people.
My decision to renounce my affiliation with the GOP is based off of the race-tinged disrespect that I have witnessed people of the GOP to display, repeatedly.
Please explain the connection in your mind.
Sister Charnock, please feel free to explain the connection too.
I invite anyone on AFF who can explain the connection between:
the racially tinged disrespect our President is experiencing;
the fact that most Black Christians vote Democrat; and
how the two facts above would lead someone to think about blacks being dependent on the government.
I will take a stab at it too-- but I would like to offer others the opportunity to make the connection.
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