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Old 06-01-2016, 09:51 PM
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Obviously you weren't there or you'd know why law enforcement was called in beforehand.

And to set things straight, the children's pastor resigned before all this took place. The music minister was let go for insubordinate behavior to the senior pastor. Then the family and youth pastors (which they were cousins) resigned after the business meeting that was called by the church members to try and force the pastor out, which backfired. Also many other members left after the business meeting. Several of the members don't even know why they left. I think they were coerced.

God is sifting the wheat folks.
That a whole lot of pastors?
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Old 06-02-2016, 10:13 AM
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Obviously you weren't there or you'd know why law enforcement was called in beforehand.

And to set things straight, the children's pastor resigned before all this took place. The music minister was let go for insubordinate behavior to the senior pastor. Then the family and youth pastors (which they were cousins) resigned after the business meeting that was called by the church members to try and force the senior pastor out, which backfired. Also many other members left after the business meeting. Several of the members don't even know why they left. I think they were coerced.

God is sifting the wheat folks.
So enlighten us. Why was the police called in for "crowd control" at a church meeting? How embarrassing for the body of Christ. What a witness to the community and police.
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Old 06-02-2016, 10:18 AM
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So enlighten us. Why was the police called in for "crowd control" at a church meeting? How embarrassing for the body of Christ. What a witness to the community and police.
You're absolutely right. But when threats were been made against the senior pastor, he took preventative measures for his and others safety. Thankfully the law enforcement did not have to intervene.
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Ok is it a fact Elder Reckart is dead?
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Ok is it a fact Elder Reckart is dead?
Add him as a friend on facebook. If he accepts or declines he is alive.
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Add him as a friend on facebook. If he accepts or declines he is alive.
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Obviously you weren't there or you'd know why law enforcement was called in beforehand.

And to set things straight, the children's pastor resigned before all this took place. The music minister was let go for insubordinate behavior to the senior pastor. Then the family and youth pastors (which they were cousins) resigned after the business meeting that was called by the church members to try and force the senior pastor out, which backfired. Also many other members left after the business meeting. Several of the members don't even know why they left. I think they were coerced.

God is sifting the wheat folks.
At first quick perusal, I thought your name said something else, which more closely matches your posts. I hate to see good people treated badly.
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Ok is it a fact Elder Reckart is dead?
I think they were just joking when they said he was.
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.

"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.

"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."

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Old 06-04-2016, 09:00 AM
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A sad situation. The good news is that a church can recover. In a city I used to live in a church had a bad church split that like this was an embarrassment to the body of Christ. Before it played out when the embattled pastor would ask the church to stand during service the half with him would and the half against him would not. Eventually he left but not before the church had split with many of those against him leaving.

I wondered if the situation could be repaired and felt it would be many years for that church to heal but the new pastor was an amazing man of God who quickly brought the church together in unity and it became a great witness in that town with a lot of new converts, etc.

It will be interesting to see what happens here. Some key points to ponder are what kind of financial shape is TPC Memphis in? Is the physical plant paid for or is there a large debt to service? If there is a lot of debt and it was based on running around 800 people then they may be in big trouble based on the earlier people leaving and now this split.

With the latest group leaving does anybody know how many they are running on Sunday's now?
I heard it was a wealthy church?
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I heard it was a wealthy church?
If it is then how much financial trouble they are in with this split after the orignal split when Pastor Black left is probably directly related to how much debt the church has and if the folks upset and leaving are the money folks or not.
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.

"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.

"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."

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