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Old 06-04-2016, 08:20 AM
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Re: Jan Crouch Stroke

Originally Posted by votivesoul View Post
This cannot be quantified by anyone. Is not the prayers of the saints contained in bowls in the heavens?
What anyone here has or hasn't done, if they've done but only one thing in their life, and in so doing, God saved a sinner from eternal death, that is a VERY BIG DEAL!!
To say anything else runs into this:
They that compare themselves among themselves are not wise. What the Crouch's did or didn't do for the kingdom is immaterial. The Kingdom is God's, and He will grow it as He sees fits.
No one can say, (1) "I built this part of God's Kingdom", or "He built the Kingdom of God in this place, or that place", and etc.
(2) Jesus said "Upon this rock I will build my church".
There it is!

(1) When one says that he,she built part of God's kingdom,
they have their reward: the praise of men.
(2) The Lord, himself, is building HIS Church! All we can
do is follow King David's example and bring gold, silver, precious
stones, and fine materials (souls) to the Lord that He may build
there upon. Listen to Haggai: "Is it time for you, O ye, to dwell
in your cieled houses, and this house lie waste?"

Building the Kingdom without the gospel, is building it with
"...wood, hay, stubble...".
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Old 06-04-2016, 04:15 PM
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Re: Jan Crouch Stroke

Sorry to hear of Jan Crouch's death! I was not a fan of hers. In fact, I have avoided her and anything TBN. They may be good people, but the whole thing has seemed too fake for my taste.
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Old 06-06-2016, 09:42 AM
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Re: Jan Crouch Stroke

Originally Posted by Fionn mac Cumh View Post
Taught my fair share of bible studies. Passed out tracks ect..

No where near what the Crouch's have done. I dont no where people get off condemning someone like them. Especially after they are gone.
I happened to catch one of their programs once, and the Crouch's shared some of Jan's background in which she had suffered a mental breakdown and he handled her very gently and seemed to pamper her. Honestly I don't think when listening to her, that she ever overcame those problems, they continued to plague her.
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Old 06-06-2016, 12:56 PM
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Re: Jan Crouch Stroke

God used that ministry regardless of what Jan and Paul were like.
I know solid Christians who came to Christ through that ministry.
That's all I can say about it.
Did I watch it myself? Not very often.
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Old 06-11-2016, 07:38 PM
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Re: Jan Crouch Stroke

I leave issues like this alone. One thing I know is that Paul said whoever preaches Christ is doing something good. He even said that about people who dishonestly preached Jesus just to see Paul receive more persecution. So, God uses everyone's preaching of Christ despite any issues involved.

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