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Old 09-23-2011, 07:13 AM
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Baptism Doth Also Now Save Us

You'd think, from the way I Peter 3:21 is most often quoted that it said the following.

1 Peter 3:21 Baptism doth also now save us

But it doesn't.

It says the following...

1 Peter 3:21 The like figure whereunto [even] baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:

So... I was wondering what everyone's thoughts were on the further explanation found in parenthesis.

The statement is made that, in like figure to the ark & the flood, baptism doth also now save us.

Then a further explanation is given that says "not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God"

What does that mean?
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Old 09-23-2011, 08:10 AM
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Re: Baptism Doth Also Now Save Us

getting my ESV out before Prax starts teasing us about the doth, brb
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Old 09-23-2011, 08:12 AM
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Twas not a ceremonial cleansing as in the law but in baptism the penitent have their sins washed away.
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Re: Baptism Doth Also Now Save Us

1 Peter 3:21

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21Baptism, which corresponds to this,(A) now saves you, not as a removal of dirt from the body but(B) as an appeal to God for a good conscience,(C) through the resurrection of Jesus Christ,
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Twas not a ceremonial cleansing as in the law but in baptism the penitent have their sins washed away.
Amen. God does many wonderful things beyond the sight of man in such things like baptism. Col 2:11-12 says there is an operation God performs in baptism that is not done with human hands, while human hands baptize. In other words, the real work is not the preacher baptizing the person, but the faith in the obedient one being baptized causes God to operate and cut away the body of the sins of the flesh. That is why baptism is a spiritual circumcision. But when spiritual issues are in focus, many cannot fathom them, so they do not see any spiritual value in water baptism.
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Amen. God does many wonderful things beyond the sight of man in such things like baptism. Col 2:11-12 says there is an operation God performs in baptism that is not done with human hands, while human hands baptize. In other words, the real work is not the preacher baptizing the person, but the faith in the obedient one being baptized causes God to operate and cut away the body of the sins of the flesh. That is why baptism is a spiritual circumcision. But when spiritual issues are in focus, many cannot fathom them, so they do not see any spiritual value in water baptism.
In other words... what it is stating is that the cleansing going on is not a physical cleansing but a spiritual one?
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In other words... what it is stating is that the cleansing going on is not a physical cleansing but a spiritual one?
Yes, a cleansing of sin is a spiritual cleansing. Or a spiritual circumcision. Cutting away not physical flesh but the body of sins of the flesh.
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Abraham's faith before circumcision imputed righteousness. Think on these things.
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Abraham's faith before circumcision imputed righteousness. Think on these things.
How does that pertain to the question?
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How does that pertain to the question?
NOT a thing.
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