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04-08-2021, 12:06 PM
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Re: Trinitarians Who Baptize in Jesus Name
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Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968
Why would he be a man? The cross was completed, the humanity was the perfect sacrifice.
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Im stunned. How many "Apostolics" think Jesus is no longer a man?
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04-08-2021, 12:13 PM
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Re: Trinitarians Who Baptize in Jesus Name
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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple
Im stunned. How many "Apostolics" think Jesus is no longer a man?
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So am I...if you claim to be oneness and can’t flat out say or believe that Jesus is the Son of God, don’t be surprised if trinitarians don’t even listen to anything you have to say about the topic of Godhead.
Jesus is the Son of God is the most basic tenet of our faith. Oneness and trinitarians believe this.
Explaining how Jesus is the son of God is where the differences are. And some people have come to the conclusion that being able to explain the “how” is a heaven/hell issue.
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04-08-2021, 12:24 PM
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Re: Trinitarians Who Baptize in Jesus Name
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Originally Posted by TGBTG
Wow!...not a simple yes or no response to the question?
Yeah, you shouldn’t worry about trinitarians if you can’t even give a straight answer regarding if Jesus is the son of God.
Let me help you out:
Rev 2:8
And unto the angel of the church in Thyatira write; These things saith the Son of God, who hath his eyes like unto a flame of fire, and his feet are like fine brass;
Notice Jesus called himself the son of God many years after his resurrection.
The fact that you can’t just straight out say Jesus is the son of God is honestly baffling.
Using the same standard you used to judge the trinitarians, you may be worshipping a different God...hahaha
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More than a few on our side will even go so far as to eliminate the words of songs that refer to Jesus as the Son of God. Doctrinal insecurity. Truthfully, I do not think they really understand our doctrine.
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04-08-2021, 12:43 PM
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Re: Trinitarians Who Baptize in Jesus Name
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Originally Posted by Originalist
More than a few on our side will even go so far as to eliminate the words of songs that refer to Jesus as the Son of God. Doctrinal insecurity. Truthfully, I do not think they really understand our doctrine.
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The truth of the matter is that we are often more focused on explaining how the trinitarians are wrong, than understanding and defending our own doctrine. We seem to take comfort in finding fault with the doctrine of others, whichever side of the fence we fall on. It is somewhat reminiscent of the plank in the eye allegory.
I have absolutely listened to a trinitarian explain the trinity almost verbatim to the method the general superintendent of the UPCI explained oneness in the debate.
I was shocked!
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04-08-2021, 12:53 PM
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Re: Trinitarians Who Baptize in Jesus Name
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Originally Posted by Tithesmeister
The truth of the matter is that we are often more focused on explaining how the trinitarians are wrong, than understanding and defending our own doctrine. We seem to take comfort in finding fault with the doctrine of others, whichever side of the fence we fall on. It is somewhat reminiscent of the plank in the eye allegory.
I have absolutely listened to a trinitarian explain the trinity almost verbatim to the method the general superintendent of the UPCI explained oneness in the debate.
I was shocked!
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This!!
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04-08-2021, 12:53 PM
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Re: Trinitarians Who Baptize in Jesus Name
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Originally Posted by Originalist
More than a few on our side will even go so far as to eliminate the words of songs that refer to Jesus as the Son of God. Doctrinal insecurity. Truthfully, I do not think they really understand our doctrine.
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Might as well remove it from the scriptures..haha
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04-08-2021, 01:33 PM
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Re: Trinitarians Who Baptize in Jesus Name
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Originally Posted by Tithesmeister
Allow me to make it simple, if I may. Yes or no question:
Do you believe Jesus is currently the Son of God?
It is not a complicated question. A one word answer will be best.
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No.
I believe Jesus is God.
Simple as that.
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04-08-2021, 01:33 PM
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Re: Trinitarians Who Baptize in Jesus Name
I’m gonna make it even easier.
This is Paul, after “seeing the Light”.
Acts.9
[20] And straightway he preached Christ in the synagogues, that he is the Son of God.
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04-08-2021, 01:35 PM
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Re: Trinitarians Who Baptize in Jesus Name
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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple
Im stunned. How many "Apostolics" think Jesus is no longer a man?
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Why would God be a man?
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04-08-2021, 01:35 PM
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Re: Trinitarians Who Baptize in Jesus Name
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Originally Posted by Tithesmeister
I’m gonna make it even easier.
This is Paul, after “seeing the Light”.
Acts.9
[20] And straightway he preached Christ in the synagogues, that he is the Son of God.
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What does son refer to?
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Jesus, Teach us How to war in the Spirit realm, rather than war in the carnal, physical realm. Teach us to be spiritually minded, rather than to be mindful of the carnal.
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