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01-19-2008, 07:57 AM
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the same pride that parks a new car in the front hides a beat up junker in the back
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Was that you parking next to me around back?
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01-19-2008, 08:01 AM
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LOL, i had a 92 lincoln town car that had a huge crease down the side and had 475,000 miles when i sold it 3 months ago for 500.00. I felt guilty selling it for that much. Had it for 9 years.
Would have parked it beside you but it was too far to carry my equipment in to the church so i was stuck up front.
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01-19-2008, 08:37 AM
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If there was a dress code in the New Testament Church I would follow it. We are given some principles.
Modesty being the key. Most people think of how much they should cover as modesty. That is true but it also includes the idea of wearing expensive clothes.
If a poor man comes to Church in vile raiment he is to be treated with exactly the same honor as those wearing suits and ties. It is relatively certain that Paul was not wearing the sharp, professional look people like nowadays.
10: We are fools for Christ's sake, but ye are wise in Christ; we are weak, but ye are strong; ye are honourable, but we are despised.
11: Even unto this present hour we both hunger, and thirst, and are naked, and are buffeted, and have no certain dwellingplace; 1 Cor. 4:10-11
Not very dignified right?
Would he be able to preach in places that prefer the Wall Street look?
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01-19-2008, 08:59 AM
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I haven't read this thread yet, but I think it's ridiculous to say that a pastor has to wear a suit. Where is scripture for that?
Sometimes Eddie wears a suit, but the vast majority of the time he doesn't. The people (sinners) who come in say that they can relate to him and listen to him because he doesn't "look" preacher-ish. He comes across very real and open and honest. People are hungry for Jesus, but they are turned off by church. Although I love to see him in a suit, I have to remember that it's not about me.
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01-19-2008, 09:03 AM
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Who cares? I mean really. The ones who wear suits do and the ones who don't wear suits don't. Why is it anyone else's business? Why do you care what another minister wears. The spirit of this thread is divisive in and of itself.
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01-19-2008, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Sherri
I haven't read this thread yet, but I think it's ridiculous to say that a pastor has to wear a suit. Where is scripture for that?
Sometimes Eddie wears a suit, but the vast majority of the time he doesn't. The people (sinners) who come in say that they can relate to him and listen to him because he doesn't "look" preacher-ish. He comes across very real and open and honest. People are hungry for Jesus, but they are turned off by church. Although I love to see him in a suit, I have to remember that it's not about me.
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I agree with you. To those who want to wear suits that is fine but I don't think God cares if a preacher or a person in the pew wears a suit to church. Why should we make such an issue over it? Some do it to the point of disfellowshipping folks. Unreal.
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01-19-2008, 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple
If there was a dress code in the New Testament Church I would follow it. We are given some principles.
Modesty being the key. Most people think of how much they should cover as modesty. That is true but it also includes the idea of wearing expensive clothes.
If a poor man comes to Church in vile raiment he is to be treated with exactly the same honor as those wearing suits and ties. It is relatively certain that Paul was not wearing the sharp, professional look people like nowadays.
10: We are fools for Christ's sake, but ye are wise in Christ; we are weak, but ye are strong; ye are honourable, but we are despised.
11: Even unto this present hour we both hunger, and thirst, and are naked, and are buffeted, and have no certain dwellingplace; 1 Cor. 4:10-11
Not very dignified right?
Would he be able to preach in places that prefer the Wall Street look?
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Good points:
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James 2:1-9 KJV My brethren, have not the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory, with respect of persons. (2) For if there come unto your assembly a man with a gold ring, in goodly apparel, and there come in also a poor man in vile raiment; (3) And ye have respect to him that weareth the gay clothing, and say unto him, Sit thou here in a good place; and say to the poor, Stand thou there, or sit here under my footstool: (4) Are ye not then partial in yourselves, and are become judges of evil thoughts? (5) Hearken, my beloved brethren, Hath not God chosen the poor of this world rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he hath promised to them that love him? (6) But ye have despised the poor. Do not rich men oppress you, and draw you before the judgment seats? (7) Do not they blaspheme that worthy name by the which ye are called? (8) If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well: (9) But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.
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The problem comes from circles where dress standards are stressed more than most other things, or just as equal as the othe most stressed issues. Suddenly anything to do with clothing becomes a huge issue. Funny, really.
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01-19-2008, 10:52 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sherri
I haven't read this thread yet, but I think it's ridiculous to say that a pastor has to wear a suit. Where is scripture for that?
Sometimes Eddie wears a suit, but the vast majority of the time he doesn't. The people (sinners) who come in say that they can relate to him and listen to him because he doesn't "look" preacher-ish. He comes across very real and open and honest. People are hungry for Jesus, but they are turned off by church. Although I love to see him in a suit, I have to remember that it's not about me.
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BAM!!!!!!!! DING DING DING, we have a winner, thanks for this post!
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01-19-2008, 10:54 AM
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People are so turned off by church now, its time to forget about ourselves, how good we look or perform, and show them JESUUUUUS!!!! *BTW, this will usually occur OUTSIDE of your church building*
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01-19-2008, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Ron
Have I said you were a "Liberal?"
What I have said (without knowing anything how you dress) is that "casual attire" can cause there to be "casual attitude" toward the things of God!
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How is that? How does dressing casually make or cause people to have a casual attitude at all? Let alone towards God? That seems a very subjective statement.
Unfortunatelya LOT of what is taught or believed in Pentecost has little to no foundational basis.
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- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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