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Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968
I do agree with Bro. Benincasa, you have definitely earned your forum name.
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I’m so glad you and EB can agree on something. I take it as a compliment from you both. The name means tithes teacher. It’s what I do.
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Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968
I have been consistent on my views with tithes on this forum,
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Yes you have been consistent. I agree with you on that. Consistently wrong according to all available scripture but consistent nonetheless.
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Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968
now I will say I have been looking at tithe and offering in a different way the last 6 months or so. Im not going to go into detail. I have said since the beginning I don't believe tithe is a heaven or hell issue.
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Sincere congratulations. It is important to have a heart that can be softened by the word of God.
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Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968
Ive also said if the church desires to give the pastor 10% of their finances that's is up to them.
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I agree with you about this. If they want to give ten percent of their money to the pastor or their child or their local politician or whomever, that is their business. However the problem that I have is when the pastor twists the word of God and says he is entitled to ten percent of their money (which is NEVER tithed in the Bible anywhere). My problem you see is with false teaching. And it is SOMETIMES taught that it is IMPOSSIBLE to be saved unless they tithe.
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Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968
Ive also said I personally don't believe in a part time ministry,
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You would obviously disagree with Paul on this subject if you are implying that a pastor or other minister should not hold a secular job.
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and like myself I have supported the pastor through my finances so that he didn't have to have a full time job.
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It sounds like you were a victim of false teaching. Don’t victimize others just because you were victimized.
I believe we would agree that ALL drunkards are lost . It’s pretty easy to support that doctrine with scripture.
1Cor.6
[10] Nor thieves, nor covetous,
nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
Drunkards shall not inherit the kingdom of God. Pretty straightforward. It’s there in black and white. Out of five listed sins being a drunkard will keep you out of the kingdom.
But what about preachers who
steal money from their people that they are supposed to be serving?
What about pastors who
covet the saints money soooo much that they have fabricated a whole doctrine to justify taking money from Jesus’ very own church? It seems to be almost the same thing that provoked Jesus to take a whip and clean out the temple.
What about increasingly brazen pastors who contradict Jesus when He said salvation was a free gift, and they contend that it is impossible to be saved unless you pay them ten percent of your gross wage?
Well, that’s just gross! Aaaand it’s also extortion!
So let’s look at that verse again.
1Cor.6
[10] Nor
thieves, nor
covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor
extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
Pastors need to be very careful. Because, he that would be rich falls into many temptations. Including twisting scripture and teaching false doctrine.
I teach that thieves (even preachers who are stealing tithes) nor the covetous (even pastors who are coveting money to which they are not entitled) nor extortionists (even pastors who are extorting tithes from their members by telling them they will be lost unless they “voluntarily” give them ten percent) are lost! Aaaand they need to be preached to on the subject.
But I’m not gonna preach or anything.
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