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The Spear of Longinus the Shroud of Turin
What does the Spear of Longinus the Shroud of Turin both have in common?
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Re: The Spear of Longinus the Shroud of Turin
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
What does the Spear of Longinus the Shroud of Turin both have in common?
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Both things involved with the execution/death of Christ. The spear was supposedly the spear that pierced His side so that blood and water flowed out.
The shroud is VERY interesting...
Hitler wanted the spear for sure...not sure about the shroud though.
Why?
Whatcha got Uncle Benny?😅
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Re: The Spear of Longinus the Shroud of Turin
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Originally Posted by jediwill83
Both things involved with the execution/death of Christ. The spear was supposedly the spear that pierced His side so that blood and water flowed out.
The shroud is VERY interesting...
Hitler wanted the spear for sure...not sure about the shroud though.
Why?
Whatcha got Uncle Benny?😅
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The only thing they have in common is that they are Medieval religious relics. Both having nothing to do with any Biblical event. 
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Re: The Spear of Longinus the Shroud of Turin
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The only thing they have in common is that they are Medieval religious relics.
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There is no one special Spear of Longinus, and were many diverse claims over the centuries.
The Shroud of Turin (and the Sudarium of Oviedo) have very special and unique elements that puzzle even advanced scientists.
Your analogy attempt fails.
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Re: The Spear of Longinus the Shroud of Turin
That shroud of Turin is so fake, lol. It is hard for me to comprehend how some entire religious groups take it seriously.
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Re: The Spear of Longinus the Shroud of Turin
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That shroud of Turin is so fake, lol. It is hard for me to comprehend how some entire religious groups take it seriously.
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Re: The Spear of Longinus the Shroud of Turin
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Originally Posted by Steven Avery
There is no one special Spear of Longinus, and were many diverse claims over the centuries.
The Shroud of Turin (and the Sudarium of Oviedo) have very special and unique elements that puzzle even advanced scientists.
Your analogy attempt fails.
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There is nothing puzzling about the shroud it is a religious icon, nothing more nothing less. Analogies aside, I had given you book, chapter, and verse on how your Medieval Roman Icon cannot be the burial cloths of Jesus Christ. Jesus wasn't laid in a death shroud, but He was wrapped in winding cloths, with His face only covered with a napkin (as Lazarus John 11:44). Therefore making the Roman Catholic relic a fake. Jesus said blessed are those who have not seen, but yet have believed John 20:29. I think receiving the Holy Ghost with the initial evidence of speaking in other tongues, is way better than some ancient sheet with an icon.
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Re: The Spear of Longinus the Shroud of Turin
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There is nothing puzzling about the shroud it is a religious icon, nothing more nothing less. Analogies aside, I had given you book, chapter, and verse on how your Medieval Roman Icon cannot be the burial cloths of Jesus Christ. Jesus wasn't laid in a death shroud, but He was wrapped in winding cloths, with His face only covered with a napkin (as Lazarus John 11:44). Therefore making the Roman Catholic relic a fake. Jesus said blessed are those who have not seen, but yet have believed John 20:29. I think receiving the Holy Ghost with the initial evidence of speaking in other tongues, is way better than some ancient sheet with an icon. |
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Re: The Spear of Longinus the Shroud of Turin
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Originally Posted by Steven Avery
There is no one special Spear of Longinus, and were many diverse claims over the centuries.
The Shroud of Turin (and the Sudarium of Oviedo) have very special and unique elements that puzzle even advanced scientists.
Your analogy attempt fails.
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It's hard to dismiss the shroud after what I've found out about it.
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Re: The Spear of Longinus the Shroud of Turin
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
It's hard to dismiss the shroud after what I've found out about it.
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What did you find out about it?
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