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07-20-2008, 02:20 PM
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Why did Herodia want John's head?
Herodias divorced her husband Philip---and it was a scandal because she married again while her husband was still living.
Realize WHY John the Baptist was beheaded: because he told Herod that he had his brother Philip's wife.
The divorces of both of their spouses (Herod's and Herodias) did NOT dissolve the bond of marriage between Herodias and Philip. She was his wife until HE (Philip) died
Even though they had a LEGAL DIVORCE.. in Gods eyes she was still another mans wife......
People will hate you and despise you if you stand for this truth.. but I encourage the men of God everywhere to begin standing for ONE WIFE and ONE HUSBAND for life.. anything else falls short of the mark and is thus SIN
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07-20-2008, 02:30 PM
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Re: Why did Herodia want John head?
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Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn
Herodias divorced her husband Philip---and it was a scandal because she married again while her husband was still living.
Realize WHY John the Baptist was beheaded: because he told Herod that he had his brother Philip's wife.
The divorces of both of their spouses (Herod's and Herodias) did NOT dissolve the bond of marriage between Herodias and Philip. She was his wife until HE (Philip) died
Even though they had a LEGAL DIVORCE.. in Gods eyes she was still another mans wife......
People will hate you and despise you if you stand for this truth.. but I encourage the men of God everywhere to begin standing for ONE WIFE and ONE HUSBAND for life.. anything else falls short of the mark and is thus SIN
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Also it was Incest.
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07-20-2008, 02:55 PM
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Re: Why did Herodia want John's head?
where does it say Phillip and Herodia were divorced. Epley is right too, she was the niece of both of them
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- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
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07-20-2008, 03:40 PM
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Re: Why did Herodia want John head?
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Also it was Incest.
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It was not the incest he mentioned Elder, it was the 2nd marriage
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07-20-2008, 03:42 PM
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Re: Why did Herodia want John's head?
I find these scripture of most interest
Mark 10:11 After they repeatedly asked Jesus to clarify his stand on Divorce and Remarriage.... he says here
Mark 10:12 And he saith unto them, Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her.No exucse here for Adultery at all... is there?
He almost in frustration.. weary of their pressing him... made it abundatly clear whats Gods law is......
He said MOSES allowed for DIVORCE because of their hardness.. but here he AGAIN brings it back to the beginning of creation,,,and say the TWO become ONE and if they ever remarry they are in Adultery
And if a woman shall put away her husband, and be married to another, she committeth adultery.
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07-20-2008, 03:43 PM
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Re: Why did Herodia want John's head?
Under the Old Covenant the penalty for adultery was DEATH. That would free the innocent party to remarry. Because of their Royal standing it obviously was not carried out.
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07-20-2008, 03:44 PM
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Re: Why did Herodia want John's head?
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Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn
Herodias divorced her husband Philip---and it was a scandal because she married again while her husband was still living.
Realize WHY John the Baptist was beheaded: because he told Herod that he had his brother Philip's wife.
The divorces of both of their spouses (Herod's and Herodias) did NOT dissolve the bond of marriage between Herodias and Philip. She was his wife until HE (Philip) died
Even though they had a LEGAL DIVORCE.. in Gods eyes she was still another mans wife......
People will hate you and despise you if you stand for this truth.. but I encourage the men of God everywhere to begin standing for ONE WIFE and ONE HUSBAND for life.. anything else falls short of the mark and is thus SIN
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So You Pastors and Saints who believe as the Bible states concerning divorce, 'in the beginning it was not so' for a man or woman to divorce their spouses and feel that God is still calling them to preach the gospel even when the man and his wife both have prior marriages? They are definately not obeying God's word, so how are they qualified?
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07-20-2008, 03:50 PM
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Re: Why did Herodia want John's head?
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Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn
I find these scripture of most interest
Mark 10:11 After they repeatedly asked Jesus to clarify his stand on Divorce and Remarriage.... he says here
Mark 10:12 And he saith unto them, Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her.No exucse here for Adultery at all... is there?
He almost in frustration.. weary of their pressing him... made it abundatly clear whats Gods law is......
He said MOSES allowed for DIVORCE because of their hardness.. but here he AGAIN brings it back to the beginning of creation,,,and say the TWO become ONE and if they ever remarry they are in Adultery
And if a woman shall put away her husband, and be married to another, she committeth adultery.
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Mat 19:9 And I say to you: whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery."
Mat 5:31 "It was also said, 'Whoever divorces his wife, let him give her a certificate of divorce.'
Mat 5:32 But I say to you that everyone who divorces his wife, except on the ground of sexual immorality, makes her commit adultery. And whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery.
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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07-20-2008, 03:55 PM
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Re: Why did Herodia want John's head?
For PRAX - http://freepages.religions.rootsweb....or/page16.html
Tells all about Heoridas
By the way Herod Antipas her 2nd husband,.,, was "curator of the Law" byt title... in that day one must have a bill of Divorcement before they can marry another... Herod had to abide by the laws of his Kingdom..... prood is when he quoted the law so many times in dealing with Jesus.. THE LAW TELL US
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07-20-2008, 03:56 PM
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Re: Why did Herodia want John's head?
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Originally Posted by Hot Coffee Ms.
So You Pastors and Saints who believe as the Bible states concerning divorce, 'in the beginning it was not so' for a man or woman to divorce their spouses and feel that God is still calling them to preach the gospel even when the man and his wife both have prior marriages? They are definately not obeying God's word, so how are they qualified?
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The are NOT qualified
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