The Importance Of The Fruit Of The Spirit.

Scott Hutchinson · #1 07-02-2009, 02:43 PM

Why is it in Spirit Filled churches we hear alot of emphasis on the audible manifestations of The Holy Ghost,which are important ,yet one hears very little emphasis placed on manifesting the fruit of the Spirit which to me show how Christian character is displayed,yet there are many who can speak in tongues till they are blue in the face ,prophesy and such and have very little if any at all of the fruit of the Spirit manifest in their daily lives ?

Why is there very little emphasis placed on the importance of having the fruit of the Spirit to manifest themselves in the life of a disciple of Christ ?

I feel one can speak in tongues work in the gifts and such,and be very fruitful in manifesting the fruit of the Spirit.

RandyWayne · #2 07-02-2009, 03:03 PM

One is easy, one is hard.

Nuff said

Scott Hutchinson · #3 07-02-2009, 03:05 PM

Gifts are given,yet fruit is grown and cultivated.
Would not a life yielded to The Master produce The Fruit Of His Holy Spirit ?

Scott Hutchinson · #4 07-02-2009, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne

One is easy, one is hard.

Nuff said

Please elaborate,because they are people who one nevers hears them publicly aubidly manifest a vocal utterance of The Holy Ghost,yet show the fruit of The Spirit in their lives.

Withdrawn · #5 07-02-2009, 03:08 PM

Scott,

The GIFTS are much more glamorous and attract attention to the gifted (self). Thus the attraction and the predominance of it. It feeds our egos and makes us look super-spiritual.

Self-sacrifice and 1 Corinthians 13 love (notice the connection between how Paul describes love/charity in 1 Cor 13 and the fruits of the Spirit in Galatians) are not nearly as glamorous. They tend to focus on others and on God, thus denying self (and egos and agendas, etc). I don't think the "fruits of the Spirit" have EVER put anyone in the limelight. In fact, the fruits SHY AWAY from the limelight.

That's why. IMO, of course.

Withdrawn · #6 07-02-2009, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson

Gifts are given,yet fruit is grown and cultivated.
Would not a life yielded to The Master produce The Fruit Of His Holy Spirit ?

Good point, brother! A life yielded to the Master absolutely will produce fruit. If it isn't, the connection to the Vine has been severed and that branch is dead. The "gifts" can be easily faked/mimicked. The fruits... not so much.

Scott Hutchinson · #7 07-02-2009, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jaamez

Scott,

The GIFTS are much more glamorous and attract attention to the gifted (self). Thus the attraction and the predominance of it. It feeds our egos and makes us look super-spiritual.

Self-sacrifice and 1 Corinthians 13 love (notice the connection between how Paul describes love/charity in 1 Cor 13 and the fruits of the Spirit in Galatians) are not nearly as glamorous. They tend to focus on others and on God, thus denying self (and egos and agendas, etc). I don't think the "fruits of the Spirit" have EVER put anyone in the limelight. In fact, the fruits SHY AWAY from the limelight.

That's why. IMO, of course.

Good points how many times do we hear pastors urging the believer to seek God,till the fruit of the Spirit are developed in their lives ?
People in the workplace never hear us speak in tongues,yet they see what manner of disposition we manifest amongs't them.

When we are baptized with The Holy Ghost do we not receive power to manifest the fruit of The Holy Ghost ?

RandyWayne · #8 07-02-2009, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson

Please elaborate,because they are people who one nevers hears them publicly aubidly manifest a vocal utterance of The Holy Ghost,yet show the fruit of The Spirit in their lives.

The bible simply does NOT say "you shall know them by their unknown tongues", but rather by their fruits. Yet, the church has gotten that backwards (almost said donkey backwards) and put ALL evidence on tongues (and dress).

I too know people who are Christians, but have never been "apostolic" yet show FAR more biblical fruits than I see from most others, including (I am ashamed to say) myself. Why are these people condemned to eternal torment by certain die-hards? Because to NOT do so, unravels THEIR whole world view and even takes a bit of political power away from them.

So many LOVE to hear a good strong holiness message preached that they can "amen!" too because they know that everything said is aimed at Mr or Mrs X who are sitting right behind or ahead of them. And everyone knows what Mr and Mrs X are struggling with -they need a good correction from the pulpit! Never mind that Mr and Mrs X may be giving to far more charities than the people doing all the "amen!"ing or that Mr X stopped to help a little old lady with a flat tire on the side of the road.

mfblume · #9 07-02-2009, 03:25 PM

Fruit of the Spirit means everything. Gifts do not.

People can SEE and HEAR gifts operated, but fruit of the Spirit is character, and so is not so sensational and appealing to the flesh.

The Corinthians came behind in no gift (1 Cor 1:7) and yet were striving and dividing with one another. The phrase "they're Corinthians" is used by many who understand this to criticize those who are enamoured over gifts but have not fruit.

Scott Hutchinson · #10 07-02-2009, 03:28 PM

I'm pentecostal in theology and I firmily believe in the initial evidence teaching,but I don't believe in neglecting the fruit of the Spirit,I think a balance is needed.
I think we can speak in tongues and be kind and sweet as well.

You folks have a great Christ centered afternoon,I must be off to work.