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Old 08-25-2010, 04:07 PM
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Late Dottie Rambo's stand against "INCLUSIONISM"

Dottie Rambo manager sets the record straight on late singer’s beliefs


21 AUGUST 2010

In an exclusive email to Gay Christian Movement Watch, the long time manager of the late singer Dottie Rambo said she did not support “inclusionism” nor did she support her daughter and son in law’s progay church ideology.

Larry Ferguson and his family, traveling with Rambo at the time, were all injured in the fatal bus crash. He was managing the singer at the time of her tragic death and requested GCM Watch publish his exclusive comments in response to a story which appeared on our site in May 2008.
“I would like to publicly state that Dottie Rambo didn’t subscribe to the “Doctrine of Inclusion”. Dottie believed the only way to Heaven was through the acceptance of Jesus Christ as your Lord and Personal Savior. She lived every word she sang and walked in the truth. Dottie showed unwavering love to anyone she came in contact with no matter their faith, belief, life styles, or celebrity. Nearly everyone that made her acquaintance usually left hearing the Gospel message and knowing she was a compassionate loving Christian. Dottie Rambo was no respecter of persons . Dottie believed there was a Heaven and there was a Hell and would not employ or entertain conversation to the contrary.

This being said she and her daughter Reba and son in law Dony McGuire DID NOT share beliefs concerning Christian teachings. I’m not speaking of one particular issue but nearly an entire life body of work and ministry. Though Dottie lived in Nashville, TN where her daughter’s church is located she refused to go to the church due to their doctrinal teachings as she believed they were contrary to God’s word. She never attended one service at the church her daughter pastors and was adamant that she never would. This was a very public choice that Dottie shared with fans, friends, colleagues, audiences, pastors, and congregations. Dottie loved her daughter very much though their ministries and personal lives were separate.

If you will go back over the last few decades and view Dottie’s appearances you will find that her daughter is sparsely seen with her. As her manager Dottie directed me to never book her on an appearance with her daughter or son in law. On a few tribute television specials honoring Dottie, her daughter appeared on the programming as I didn’t want to explain their strained relationship personally and doctrinally with producers of programing.

Dottie Rambo’s fans were an eclectic group of individuals that include traditional church goers and those outside the church. She showed immense love and appreciation to every person she came into contact with. I can’t stress this enough. Her ministry was to share with broken people that they too could overcome great physical illness, divorce, loss of family, sin, and hurt through the power of Jesus. Dottie never consider herself a preacher, but her songs were sermons in themselves. “He Looked Beyond My Fault and Saw My Needs” sums up her message.”
The comments stating that Dottie Rambo had embraced the gospel of inclusion were posted by Pastor Kevin Gallagher.

http://www.gcmwatch.com/5125/dottie-...ingers-beliefs
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Dottie Rambo manager sets the record straight on late singer’s beliefs


21 AUGUST 2010

In an exclusive email to Gay Christian Movement Watch, the long time manager of the late singer Dottie Rambo said she did not support “inclusionism” nor did she support her daughter and son in law’s progay church ideology.

Larry Ferguson and his family, traveling with Rambo at the time, were all injured in the fatal bus crash. He was managing the singer at the time of her tragic death and requested GCM Watch publish his exclusive comments in response to a story which appeared on our site in May 2008.
“I would like to publicly state that Dottie Rambo didn’t subscribe to the “Doctrine of Inclusion”. Dottie believed the only way to Heaven was through the acceptance of Jesus Christ as your Lord and Personal Savior. She lived every word she sang and walked in the truth. Dottie showed unwavering love to anyone she came in contact with no matter their faith, belief, life styles, or celebrity. Nearly everyone that made her acquaintance usually left hearing the Gospel message and knowing she was a compassionate loving Christian. Dottie Rambo was no respecter of persons . Dottie believed there was a Heaven and there was a Hell and would not employ or entertain conversation to the contrary.

This being said she and her daughter Reba and son in law Dony McGuire DID NOT share beliefs concerning Christian teachings. I’m not speaking of one particular issue but nearly an entire life body of work and ministry. Though Dottie lived in Nashville, TN where her daughter’s church is located she refused to go to the church due to their doctrinal teachings as she believed they were contrary to God’s word. She never attended one service at the church her daughter pastors and was adamant that she never would. This was a very public choice that Dottie shared with fans, friends, colleagues, audiences, pastors, and congregations. Dottie loved her daughter very much though their ministries and personal lives were separate.

If you will go back over the last few decades and view Dottie’s appearances you will find that her daughter is sparsely seen with her. As her manager Dottie directed me to never book her on an appearance with her daughter or son in law. On a few tribute television specials honoring Dottie, her daughter appeared on the programming as I didn’t want to explain their strained relationship personally and doctrinally with producers of programing.

Dottie Rambo’s fans were an eclectic group of individuals that include traditional church goers and those outside the church. She showed immense love and appreciation to every person she came into contact with. I can’t stress this enough. Her ministry was to share with broken people that they too could overcome great physical illness, divorce, loss of family, sin, and hurt through the power of Jesus. Dottie never consider herself a preacher, but her songs were sermons in themselves. “He Looked Beyond My Fault and Saw My Needs” sums up her message.”
The comments stating that Dottie Rambo had embraced the gospel of inclusion were posted by Pastor Kevin Gallagher.

http://www.gcmwatch.com/5125/dottie-...ingers-beliefs

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Old 08-26-2010, 03:58 PM
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Dottie Rambo manager sets the record straight on late singer’s beliefs


21 AUGUST 2010

In an exclusive email to Gay Christian Movement Watch, the long time manager of the late singer Dottie Rambo said she did not support “inclusionism” nor did she support her daughter and son in law’s progay church ideology.

Larry Ferguson and his family, traveling with Rambo at the time, were all injured in the fatal bus crash. He was managing the singer at the time of her tragic death and requested GCM Watch publish his exclusive comments in response to a story which appeared on our site in May 2008.
“I would like to publicly state that Dottie Rambo didn’t subscribe to the “Doctrine of Inclusion”. Dottie believed the only way to Heaven was through the acceptance of Jesus Christ as your Lord and Personal Savior. She lived every word she sang and walked in the truth. Dottie showed unwavering love to anyone she came in contact with no matter their faith, belief, life styles, or celebrity. Nearly everyone that made her acquaintance usually left hearing the Gospel message and knowing she was a compassionate loving Christian. Dottie Rambo was no respecter of persons . Dottie believed there was a Heaven and there was a Hell and would not employ or entertain conversation to the contrary.

This being said she and her daughter Reba and son in law Dony McGuire DID NOT share beliefs concerning Christian teachings. I’m not speaking of one particular issue but nearly an entire life body of work and ministry. Though Dottie lived in Nashville, TN where her daughter’s church is located she refused to go to the church due to their doctrinal teachings as she believed they were contrary to God’s word. She never attended one service at the church her daughter pastors and was adamant that she never would. This was a very public choice that Dottie shared with fans, friends, colleagues, audiences, pastors, and congregations. Dottie loved her daughter very much though their ministries and personal lives were separate.

If you will go back over the last few decades and view Dottie’s appearances you will find that her daughter is sparsely seen with her. As her manager Dottie directed me to never book her on an appearance with her daughter or son in law. On a few tribute television specials honoring Dottie, her daughter appeared on the programming as I didn’t want to explain their strained relationship personally and doctrinally with producers of programing.

Dottie Rambo’s fans were an eclectic group of individuals that include traditional church goers and those outside the church. She showed immense love and appreciation to every person she came into contact with. I can’t stress this enough. Her ministry was to share with broken people that they too could overcome great physical illness, divorce, loss of family, sin, and hurt through the power of Jesus. Dottie never consider herself a preacher, but her songs were sermons in themselves. “He Looked Beyond My Fault and Saw My Needs” sums up her message.”
The comments stating that Dottie Rambo had embraced the gospel of inclusion were posted by Pastor Kevin Gallagher.

http://www.gcmwatch.com/5125/dottie-...ingers-beliefs
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Old 08-26-2010, 07:08 PM
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I am glad to read this clarification. Many times people who are loving and friendly to all like Dottie was get mislabeled.
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Wow...now I have to go check out what Reba's church. LOL!

Seriously, good for her!
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Wow...now I have to go check out what Reba's church. LOL!

Seriously, good for her!

I don't see why this matters. For either side, I think it's irresponsible to try to make Dottie speak from the grave. Let her rest in peace. She was a great songwriter, contributed much to Christianity, and I'd prefer that all refrain from trying to speak for her now that she is unable to speak for herself.

None of her work will ever speak louder to me than, "Holy Spirit, Thou Art Welcome In This Place" and its performance at her funeral was one of the most sacred moments I've ever witnessed, especially the second verse by Nicole Binion.





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhJ8Q6PCf1Y

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Dottie's funeral was amazing.It seems strange to say I enjoyed a funeral but to sit and hear some of the best voices in the world sing some of the best songs in the wolrd was a tremendous blessing. The DVD of it is good but not near as good as being there was. It is a shame her poor health really restricted her the last 15 years or so.
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"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.

"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."

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My first thought was to feel bad for Reba. After her mother's death, does she need to read a public statement clarifying how strained their relationship was? I think that was between them, and Dottie had many years to make her stance clear (and apparently did so). But to come out now, after her death, and publicly remind everyone that their relationship was rocky, and that Dottie didn't want to perform with her, just seems hurtful, imo.
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I don't see why this matters. For either side, I think it's irresponsible to try to make Dottie speak from the grave. Let her rest in peace. She was a great songwriter, contributed much to Christianity, and I'd prefer that all refrain from trying to speak for her now that she is unable to speak for herself.

None of her work will ever speak louder to me than, "Holy Spirit, Thou Art Welcome In This Place" and its performance at her funeral was one of the most sacred moments I've ever witnessed, especially the second verse by Nicole Binion.





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhJ8Q6PCf1Y
I would agree...my comment was TIC...I did not go check out her church for I do not care either way myself.

As for Dottie taking a stand, I still say good for her, ALTHOUGH I do think this matter should have been kept quiet. I am trying to figure out what this manager has to gain by announcing this now. Is their a tribute album coming out and he needs to generate some publicity? Something has caused this to be brought to light...
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Dottie's funeral was amazing.It seems strange to say I enjoyed a funeral but to sit and hear some of the best voices in the world sing some of the best songs in the wolrd was a tremendous blessing. The DVD of it is good but not near as good as being there was. It is a shame her poor health really restricted her the last 15 years or so.
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CCI - until reading your post, I didn't realize that the funeral had been available on DVD. I watched several of the you-tube videos and would LOVE to have the DVD. I have searched everywhere online to try to purchase a copy - any ideas ?

Thanks!
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