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Old 11-17-2010, 01:21 PM
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Judgement for premarital sex??

Asking this after reading an interesting article about fornication.

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http://www.sabbathcovenant.com/doctr...on_defined.htm


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Old 11-17-2010, 02:20 PM
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Re: Judgement for premarital sex??

1. God did call it "fornication" when Israel committed idolatry, and worshiped other gods. He accused Israel of "whoredoms." However, this is an allegory, and doesn't necessarily indicate the whole definition of fornication.

2. In the OT, premarital sex was NOT met with the same punishments as other sexual sins, perversions or improprieties. It required the man who slept with the *maid* to either marry her or pay her father for taking her virginity.

That's the extent of my agreement with the article. Even though premarital sex wasn't punished with death, it still fell outside the lines of acceptable behavior, as illustrated by the need on the part of the man to set things straight through marriage or payment. Secondly, I disagree that fornication only refers to idolatry. It's a broad term that refers to many types of sexual sin:


porneia --

From G4203; harlotry (including adultery and incest); figuratively idolatry: - fornication.



Sidenote: It's interesting that "pornography" and "fornication" share the same root word.
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Old 11-17-2010, 02:26 PM
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Re: Judgement for premarital sex??

Unreal. If a man married a Woman and discovered she was not a virgin she was burned with fire.

Can you imagine the implications of this doctrine? Reminds me of Jezebel who taught the saints to commit fornication.

Plenty of "believers" fall into sexual sin as it is. Can you imagine the wickedness if this doctrine were followed?

Those who think they are really in love would many times be finding out it was no such thing and change their mind about their relationship.

If it is a "commited" relationship why not just do it right and get married.
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Unreal. If a man married a Woman and discovered she was not a virgin she was burned with fire.

Can you imagine the implications of this doctrine? Reminds me of Jezebel who taught the saints to commit fornication.

Plenty of "believers" fall into sexual sin as it is. Can you imagine the wickedness if this doctrine were followed?

Those who think they are really in love would many times be finding out it was no such thing and change their mind about their relationship.

If it is a "commited" relationship why not just do it right and get married.
Well, yeah, it's better to marry than to burn, I suppose.
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Well, yeah, it's better to marry than to burn, I suppose.
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Unreal. If a man married a Woman and discovered she was not a virgin she was burned with fire.

Can you imagine the implications of this doctrine? Reminds me of Jezebel who taught the saints to commit fornication.

Plenty of "believers" fall into sexual sin as it is. Can you imagine the wickedness if this doctrine were followed?

Those who think they are really in love would many times be finding out it was no such thing and change their mind about their relationship.

If it is a "commited" relationship why not just do it right and get married.
I agree with you on that point which is also why I am so against the idea that God personally sets couples up together and tells them personally who they are to date and marry. The exact same thing happens: Man or woman meets someone and feels the tingles of infatuation and immediately interprets it as God tell her that HE is the one He wished her to wed!
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Unreal. If a man married a Woman and discovered she was not a virgin she was burned with fire.

Can you imagine the implications of this doctrine? Reminds me of Jezebel who taught the saints to commit fornication.

Plenty of "believers" fall into sexual sin as it is. Can you imagine the wickedness if this doctrine were followed?

Those who think they are really in love would many times be finding out it was no such thing and change their mind about their relationship. . . .
Just to be clear, are you talking about an unmarried couple who think they are in love, but don't get married, have sex anyway, then change their minds about being in love and break up?
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Unreal. If a man married a Woman and discovered she was not a virgin she was burned with fire.
Can you imagine the implications of this doctrine? Reminds me of Jezebel who taught the saints to commit fornication.

Plenty of "believers" fall into sexual sin as it is. Can you imagine the wickedness if this doctrine were followed?

Those who think they are really in love would many times be finding out it was no such thing and change their mind about their relationship.

If it is a "commited" relationship why not just do it right and get married.
What about the man?
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What about the man?
He tries again with someone else.
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