It's not Keith's fault, but ever since I read his thread this morning the sadness has grown.
Who is right and who is wrong in this issue?!
Is leaving the answer or is staying the better thing to do?!
I just do not understand it...
Will an exodus/split incite growth or demise?!
Who can say for certainty that they have the words which will bring healing?!
Would anyone hear and heed if they did?!
I don't know...
Can we ever go about with business as usual again?!
Just remember Joseph's words to his brothers "But as for you, ye thought evil against me; but God meant it unto good, to bring to pass, as it is this day, to save much people alive."
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What I find facinating is that at the beginning there were many different denominations all praying together. They did not fight, but they also did not all agree doctrinally. Contrary to popular opinion amoung many UCs....the movement was not always all Holiness people (standards). There were many differences, yet they did not feel to fight until the new issue so called. And even then, just afterwards, Trinitarians and OPs still fellowshipped one another and preached for one another until the divide became too large that they could not stand one another. I see this is just a repeat of the same trend. I see that even after some UCs leave, it will continue. Pentecost was originally billed as something that was unifying for us all including race....but we see that was just a pipe dreamm after all...or was it?
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Every sinner must repent of their sins.
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Barb, when all the guys left in 1992 and immediately afterwards, people felt the same way. But the UPC is a strong organization and it survived. It will feel the pain again, but it will go on I'm sure. There is a strong middle-of-the-road core.
When the AS came, nothing as far as standards changed. It asked men to affirm regularly what they affirmed when they applied for license. I'm not its bigest fan, but it did not do what the resolution that passed last week did.
That resolution, for the first time in our history, removed a distinctive that identified us as a separate people.
When the AS came, nothing as far as standards changed. It asked men to affirm regularly what they affirmed when they applied for license. I'm not its bigest fan, but it did not do what the resolution that passed last week did.
That resolution, for the first time in our history, removed a distinctive that identified us as a separate people.
That is chilling.
You're probably right. I've been so far removed from it that I don't have a feel for it anymore. But I do think it will survive.
When the AS came, nothing as far as standards changed. It asked men to affirm regularly what they affirmed when they applied for license. I'm not its bigest fan, but it did not do what the resolution that passed last week did.
That resolution, for the first time in our history, removed a distinctive that identified us as a separate people.
That is chilling.
Considering that many, dare I say most, Apostolics have TV in their homes, exactly how did it separate us, and in what way were we seen differently than the ALJC folks?
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I've gone and done it now! I'm on Facebook!!!
Considering that many, dare I say most, Apostolics have TV in their homes, exactly how did it separate us, and in what way were we seen differently than the ALJC folks?
HO,
The distinctive was this: we refuse to go on tv with our people, our worship, and our message, because we believe the medium to be unworthy and ineffective.
The distinctive was this: we refuse to go on tv with our people, our worship, and our message, because we believe the medium to be unworthy and ineffective.
I'm having problems understanding where the identification part comes in, that's all. I don't understand how not going on TV identified us as a separate people, especially when we consider that the same was done with radio at one time.
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I've gone and done it now! I'm on Facebook!!!
I'm having problems understanding where the identification part comes in, that's all. I don't understand how not going on TV identified us as a separate people, especially when we consider that the same was done with radio at one time.
It was one thing that set us apart, not THE thing.
We were probably the only Pentecostal organization, trinity or oneness, that took that kind of stand.
It was a reflection of our rejection of Hollywood.
(I am finding it very sad to have to speak of this in past tense)