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Old 10-08-2007, 09:19 AM
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The UPC is gaining ministers!

Here's a new spin on the whole TV thing.

I'm hearing of many ALJC ministers and independants that are coming into the UPC or at least considering it, including officials of other organizations...

Several ALJC ministers joined the UPC over the last few years even with the TV restriction. They said that more would join but the prohibition on TV had kept several from joining....now that this resolution has passed many are coming in!

One district official in the ALJC told me he had already handled several ministers request to drop license and join the UPC...

In a few years when we look back at this time in Apostolic History, numericaly it might come out to be a wash.... 200 leave, 200 join.......we'll see.
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Old 10-08-2007, 09:26 AM
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Counting noses doesn't tell the tale.\

When you lose men of the caliber of some of those who are leaving, you don't replace them by just licensing some other guy.

This time it isn't some radical fringe leaving.

Many of these are solid men.
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Old 10-08-2007, 09:32 AM
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Counting noses doesn't tell the tale.\

When you lose men of the caliber of some of those who are leaving, you don't replace them by just licensing some other guy.

This time it isn't some radical fringe leaving.

Many of these are solid men.
Some of the names coming from the ALJC are prominant amongst them.
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Old 10-08-2007, 09:38 AM
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I think what is going to happen in the UPC is going to be similar to what happens sometimes in the sports world. Some sports star leaves their team and everyone gets upset about it, the fans get mad at the team, criticize management, talk about how the team is going to be worse off and THEN the guys' backup steps in and shows that he's just as good or better.

i.e. Indianapoli Colts......E. James left....Addaih steps up
McNabb goes down, Garcia steps up
need I bring up Bledsoe and Brady? Bledsoe and Romo?
Griese and Grossman......lol ok that was a bad example but you get my drift.

The UPC is still an organization of men and women that are trying to reach the world with the gospel, it still is a mission's minded organization and that pleases God. IMO God's not gonna let this ship sink....nor is it even close to sinking anyhow
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I wonder how Resolution #3 will affect all this.

Newly licensed ALJC ministers no longer can have certain men in their pulpits....
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I wonder how Resolution #3 will affect all this.

Newly licensed ALJC ministers no longer can have certain men in their pulpits....
??ALJC ministers?

i don't get it.
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I think what is going to happen in the UPC is going to be similar to what happens sometimes in the sports world. Some sports star leaves their team and everyone gets upset about it, the fans get mad at the team, criticize management, talk about how the team is going to be worse off and THEN the guys' backup steps in and shows that he's just as good or better.

i.e. Indianapoli Colts......E. James left....Addaih steps up
McNabb goes down, Garcia steps up
need I bring up Bledsoe and Brady? Bledsoe and Romo?
Griese and Grossman......lol ok that was a bad example but you get my drift.

The UPC is still an organization of men and women that are trying to reach the world with the gospel, it still is a mission's minded organization and that pleases God. IMO God's not gonna let this ship sink....nor is it even close to sinking anyhow

Comparing the UPC to a sports team and preachers to star athletes is a reflection of part of what's wrong.

Great illustration.
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The upci has been raiding the aljc for a few years anyhow. It's easier to raid an organization than start a fresh work from scratch.

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Here's a new spin on the whole TV thing.

I'm hearing of many ALJC ministers and independants that are coming into the UPC or at least considering it, including officials of other organizations...

Several ALJC ministers joined the UPC over the last few years even with the TV restriction. They said that more would join but the prohibition on TV had kept several from joining....now that this resolution has passed many are coming in!

One district official in the ALJC told me he had already handled several ministers request to drop license and join the UPC...

In a few years when we look back at this time in Apostolic History, numericaly it might come out to be a wash.... 200 leave, 200 join.......we'll see.
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The upci has been raiding the aljc for a few years anyhow. It's easier to raid an organization than start a fresh work from scratch.
Ok so the UPC is raiding the ALJC
but what Booker and Godair and all these other ultra cons are doing and going to do (phone calls, mailers, emails) that will be ok??

The UPC does not openly invite aljc ministers to join, they've just been joining
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??ALJC ministers?

i don't get it.
Newly licensed former ALJC...

Is that easier. :gclock


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