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Old 09-12-2007, 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by redeemedcynic84 View Post
I meant emperical you, not a personal one... lol

and I have limits that I have set for myself, but setting limits for yourself is not what Paul was talking against, He said that the Jews were weak because they set limits for EVERYONE... Having your own personal limits is smart...

And of course those who left the UPC are less modest on the whole, you have to include those who 100% backslid in the group the way you stated it... Plus the ones who haven't left are in bondage to a bunch of rules that aren't necessary keeping them weak as Christians (even if they might be a bit more modest)...

The issue you run into is the question of if those who left and are still following God are still living modest lives or not, if they are, it doesn't matter who is "more modest"...
Not hardly worth responding since i mostly agree.

Note: Many I know in the UPC do not at all fit the accusation made against the Jews...

We are again saddled with the dilemma of judging the modesty of others... We all do this - even if we don't express it, and I don't mean judging to heaven or hell.
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