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Old 09-12-2007, 08:23 PM
redeemedcynic84
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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover View Post
First; it is very obvious you don't know me.

Second; Do you have any sort of restrictions in your own life? Perhaps you don't smoke or limit yourself to one glass of wine? Or perhap you draw the line at bikini speedos in the sancturary?

I may be wrong -of course, but I still tend to think those who have left the UPC corporately represent a less modest appearance than those who have not left. I did not even say if that is good or bad - just a thought.
I meant emperical you, not a personal one... lol

and I have limits that I have set for myself, but setting limits for yourself is not what Paul was talking against, He said that the Jews were weak because they set limits for EVERYONE... Having your own personal limits is smart...

And of course those who left the UPC are less modest on the whole, you have to include those who 100% backslid in the group the way you stated it... Plus the ones who haven't left are in bondage to a bunch of rules that aren't necessary keeping them weak as Christians (even if they might be a bit more modest)...

The issue you run into is the question of if those who left and are still following God are still living modest lives or not, if they are, it doesn't matter who is "more modest"...
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