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Originally Posted by GrowingPains
Yes, context is important and well-done in shedding full light on this particular passage in light. You're doctrine of perfection is quite flawed, however. Perfect people still sin. Perfect people still have disease and sickness. We struggle daily with sin, and if you tell me you have no sin, and for you, this is rare, I see you just as those in 1 John that are the true ones that "walk in darkness" and deceive yourself.
Yes, any who advocates and promotes sinful behavior as an acceptable norm is a heretic, but likewise any who damns people into self-abuse because they think there are perfect people out there is worse than an infidel in my book.
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This is a good example of what I am writing about. Here you are saying that one who teaches what the Lord Jesus Christ and the apostles taught is "damning people to self abuse" whatever you mean by that.
You should consider that those who are teaching you cannot cease from sin are the deceivers leading men to destruction in Gehenna.
Whats wrong with teaching what Yeshua taught? Did he teach it was to hard to obey his words?
7: But which of you, having a servant plowing or feeding cattle, will say unto him by and by, when he is come from the field, Go and sit down to meat?
8: And will not rather say unto him, Make ready wherewith I may sup, and gird thyself, and serve me, till I have eaten and drunken; and afterward thou shalt eat and drink?
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: Doth he thank that servant because he did the things that were commanded him? I trow not.
10: So likewise ye, when ye shall have done all those things which are commanded you, say,
We are unprofitable servants: we have done that which was our duty to do. Luke 17:7-10
If you do all Yeshua commands you to do that does not make you something special. You would simply be doing what you were to do. There is no controversy from the New Testament teachings as to whether YHWH will accept into Heaven people with sin in their lives.
The weak perverted teachings of men would say "of course you cant be perfect". This doctrine gets you called "worse than an infidel".
Yet what did Yeshua say?
Be ye therefore perfect even as your Father in Heaven is perfect. Matt. 5:48
His word did not go away. It will stand till the day of judgment.