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01-22-2008, 08:26 AM
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How can this be right?
I have a friend that I heard from recently that their pastor has decided to make some CHANGES that before haven't been an issue. He's decided that wearing wedding rings and watches are wrong. You can't sing in the choir this Sunday because you wear a wedding ring (last Sunday it was okay).
Saints have TV's in their homes and now he's asking them to throw them out so that Hollywood doesn't influence their homes.
Well, guess what - - they find out their pastor is going to Tulsa.
Where does this leave the church? Just because the pastor decides he wants to go this route, does that automatically mean the whole church has to now abide by HIS NEW convictions?
It's dividing the church. Young people that are being used will no longer be used if they don't abide by the new rules. It's NOT their convictions!!!!! How many people will give up because none of this makes sense to them?
Why lord, why?
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01-22-2008, 08:31 AM
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Well if this is a church run and controlled by a pastor like our own WH..the church is in trouble.
If it's a church like mine our church would be calling a board meeting and voting to buy said pastor a ticket to Tulsa...ONE WAY as part of his severance pay.
You know this "it's my way or the highway" thing, some preachers quote, can go two ways.
You get a pastor that goes nuts...put HIM on the highway!!
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01-22-2008, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by rgcraig
How can this be right?
I have a friend that I heard from recently that their pastor has decided to make some CHANGES that before haven't been an issue. He's decided that wearing wedding rings and watches are wrong. You can't sing in the choir this Sunday because you wear a wedding ring (last Sunday it was okay).
Saints have TV's in their homes and now he's asking them to throw them out so that Hollywood doesn't influence their homes.
Well, guess what - - they find out their pastor is going to Tulsa.
Where does this leave the church? Just because the pastor decides he wants to go this route, does that automatically mean the whole church has to now abide by HIS NEW convictions?
It's dividing the church. Young people that are being used will no longer be used if they don't abide by the new rules. It's NOT their convictions!!!!! How many people will be give up because none of this makes sense to them?
Why lord, why?
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There will be many who say "Yes! The pastors convictions are the Churches!".
I am sure there is a whole lot more to this story.
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01-22-2008, 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by RandyWayne
There will be many who say "Yes! The pastors convictions are the Churches!".
I am sure there is a whole lot more to this story.
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Yes, there is a whole lot more to this story.
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01-22-2008, 08:35 AM
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This is scarey.
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01-22-2008, 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover
This is scarey.
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Well, I've been reading all the Tulsa stuff and since it doesn't affect me I haven't really felt anything strong about it.
Just knowing this has happened to a friend of mine and their church just makes my heart hurt.
How many more churches, people are going to be confused with all this?
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01-22-2008, 08:47 AM
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If a pastor is going to "check things out" and seek God's direction along with his church that's one thing.
BUT, to make your mind up about the direction you are going before you even find out about the new "better Apostolic" way.............and without cluing the church body in to me is just wrong.
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01-22-2008, 09:02 AM
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If it happened exactly like it was told to you, Renda, then this pastor is probably in for a heap of trouble. Seems to me that he is trying to "fit" things into his agenda, without showing much wisdom in dealing with the people (church).
Without knowing all the details, it seems to be bad judgment.....bad business, if you will.
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01-22-2008, 09:03 AM
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They can preach convictions if it's scripture or the Holy Ghost taught him.He should never say a person can't be a part of the church if they do things that are not sin.Just preach it,if they don't agree then they can find an other assembly.
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01-22-2008, 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Sarah
If it happened exactly like it was told to you, Renda, then this pastor is probably in for a heap of trouble. Seems to me that he is trying to "fit" things into his agenda, without showing much wisdom in dealing with the people (church).
Without knowing all the details, it seems to be bad judgment.....bad business, if you will.
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Well, I assure you it has happened this way and there's a lot more I could say, but I will not to protect the privacy of this church and my friend.
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