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Old 06-29-2012, 12:22 PM
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The First Lady Cites Jesus Christ As An Example

http://news.yahoo.com/michelle-obama...-politics.html

First lady Michelle Obama Thursday offered a rare public reflection on her religious faith, telling a conference of the African Methodist Episcopal church that the life of Jesus Christ is a model for democratic organizing.
"It's kind of like church," Obama said. "Our faith journey isn't just about showing up on Sunday for a good sermon and good music and a good meal. It's about what we do Monday through Saturday as well, especially in those quiet moments, when the spotlight's not on us, and we're making those daily choices about how to live our lives.
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http://news.yahoo.com/michelle-obama...-politics.html

First lady Michelle Obama Thursday offered a rare public reflection on her religious faith, telling a conference of the African Methodist Episcopal church that the life of Jesus Christ is a model for democratic organizing.
"It's kind of like church," Obama said. "Our faith journey isn't just about showing up on Sunday for a good sermon and good music and a good meal. It's about what we do Monday through Saturday as well, especially in those quiet moments, when the spotlight's not on us, and we're making those daily choices about how to live our lives.
Just another "Social Justice" diatribe. She's another government loving socialist that believes that Jesus was a socialist, that the story of "all things in common" in Acts is somehow an endorsement of communism, and that Jesus would be all for that kind of stuff.

She doesn't see where the Scriptures preach personal responsibility, keeping the government to it's God given duty, as a restrainer of evil, and that it's the job of the church to stand in the gap with benevolence, not some governmental entity.

She makes me almost as sick as her husband does.... I respect the office, and pray for it, but have very little tolerance for either of them.
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Old 06-29-2012, 01:52 PM
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Just another "Social Justice" diatribe. She's another government loving socialist that believes that Jesus was a socialist, that the story of "all things in common" in Acts is somehow an endorsement of communism, and that Jesus would be all for that kind of stuff.

She doesn't see where the Scriptures preach personal responsibility, keeping the government to it's God given duty, as a restrainer of evil, and that it's the job of the church to stand in the gap with benevolence, not some governmental entity.

She makes me almost as sick as her husband does.... I respect the office, and pray for it, but have very little tolerance for either of them.
When the Jews brought capitalism to the Temple, Jesus overturned their tables in anger.


Jesus didn't advocate communism or capitalism.

He advocated a mindset that whatever kind of economic system use, the Father is in control.


Your post just reads with complete disregard that Mrs. Obama is your sister in Christ.

Unless you are of the ilk that your only brothers and sisters in Christ are Apostolics.
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When the Jews brought capitalism to the Temple, Jesus overturned their tables in anger.


Jesus didn't advocate communism or capitalism.

He advocated a mindset that whatever kind of economic system use, the Father is in control.


Your post just reads with complete disregard that Mrs. Obama is your sister in Christ.

Unless you are of the ilk that your only brothers and sisters in Christ are Apostolics.
Jesus issue in the temple wasn't against capitalism, it was against using the temple for personal gain, the commercialization of worship.

The Bible is more of a sponsor of TRUE Capitalism, which is person responsibility that it ever would be of Communism, which is governmental theft. The Bible teaches one should work, or one doesn't eat. That one who doesn't work for what they have is worse than an infidel.

And no, I don't believe that the Obama's are Christian... but not because they aren't Apostolic, but because their fruit doesn't witness being born again... I personally do not believe they are Christians.

But even if she is my sister in Christ, to call someone out on their deception, and misguided interpretation of Scripture to promote such horrible teachings as socialism and social justice is not disrespectful. Our yea should be yea, and our no should be no. Just because she's my "sister in Christ" doesn't mean she can't be called out on when she misrepresents the precious Word of God.
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Jesus issue in the temple wasn't against capitalism, it was against using the temple for personal gain, the commercialization of worship.

The Bible is more of a sponsor of TRUE Capitalism, which is person responsibility that it ever would be of Communism, which is governmental theft. The Bible teaches one should work, or one doesn't eat. That one who doesn't work for what they have is worse than an infidel.

And no, I don't believe that the Obama's are Christian... but not because they aren't Apostolic, but because their fruit doesn't witness being born again... I personally do not believe they are Christians.

But even if she is my sister in Christ, to call someone out on their deception, and misguided interpretation of Scripture to promote such horrible teachings as socialism and social justice is not disrespectful. Our yea should be yea, and our no should be no. Just because she's my "sister in Christ" doesn't mean she can't be called out on when she misrepresents the precious Word of God.

There is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING in the article that has anything to do with what you are talking about.


And are you around the Obama's enough to inspect their fruit?

What? Mrs. Obama's hair not long enough?
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Had a Republican cited Jesus Christ, by golly there would be all sorts of stories and off-the-beaten-path connections to this Apostolic minister in Kalamazoo or Natchez!

We would just "know" that they may not have all the truth, but they would still be a "Christian."

Puh-leeeeze!

Quote ascripture, say a prayer, and we'll stand by all your decisions to restrict our freedoms and go to war! After all, it's a scary world out there and the terrorists are coming back again!

We gotta get ready!
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Charlie Manson has mentioned christ too !
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There is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING in the article that has anything to do with what you are talking about.


And are you around the Obama's enough to inspect their fruit?

What? Mrs. Obama's hair not long enough?
fruit has nothing to do with hair length, etc. It has to do with living out the Scriptures as Christ's body here in this earth. They are very public figures, you don't have to live next to them to see the fruit they produce.

It is obvious, you love them.... support them... and think they can do no wrong... I however, will do whatever I can to stop his and her agenda in propagating a system of soft tyranny over our nation. They together have demonstrated they want to rip apart liberty and freedom and slowly increase dependency of government. They scream for equality, when really what they desire is egalitarianism. They believe if they throw enough of Jesus, and their misguided view of him, wrapped in Social Justice and Liberation Theology, they can conceal who they really are...

You and I will just have to agree to disagree, as continuing our dialogue would be to no avail and bring about no common ground. Through this post, and even more through others, you've shown your devotion to them and support for them... so arguing would do nothing for the sake of the discussion nor for the cause of Christ.

You believe what you want to about them, and I'll believe what I believe.
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Jesus issue in the temple wasn't against capitalism, it was against using the temple for personal gain, the commercialization of worship.

The Bible is more of a sponsor of TRUE Capitalism, which is person responsibility that it ever would be of Communism, which is governmental theft. The Bible teaches one should work, or one doesn't eat. That one who doesn't work for what they have is worse than an infidel.

And no, I don't believe that the Obama's are Christian... but not because they aren't Apostolic, but because their fruit doesn't witness being born again... I personally do not believe they are Christians.

But even if she is my sister in Christ, to call someone out on their deception, and misguided interpretation of Scripture to promote such horrible teachings as socialism and social justice is not disrespectful. Our yea should be yea, and our no should be no. Just because she's my "sister in Christ" doesn't mean she can't be called out on when she misrepresents the precious Word of God.


The Bible doesn't teach that one who doesn't work for what they have is worst than an infidel.

The Bible does teach us to look out for the poor, orphans, widows, elderly and the strangers that may sojourn in our land.

Get it right, Bro Robbins.
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The Bible doesn't teach that one who doesn't work for what they have is worst than an infidel.

The Bible does teach us to look out for the poor, orphans, widows, elderly and the strangers that may sojourn in our land.

Get it right, Bro Robbins.
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But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.

And yes, the Bible does instruct us to care for those that are hurting, the widows and the orphans... absolutely, but not via governmental theft and mandate.

It is to be via the church, and our own personal charity and choice. The Bible does not anywhere condone taking from me BY FORCE, and giving to someone else hurting. The Bible teaches, me operating in the love of Christ and ME giving to the poor, orphans, and widows.

I believe you are the one who needs to get it right.....
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