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Old 10-14-2015, 04:36 PM
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Ted Cruz, Con-Con, North American Union...

Ted Cruz apparently supports a constitutional convention. His wife appears to have been part of the CFR scheme for a North American Union. Cruz supports the TPP (Trans Pacific Partnership). He apparently wants to expand and "strengthen" NICS checks for firearm purchases.

Yet another closet socialist commie foreignor masquerading as a pro-American, pro-freedom patriot.
http://www.patrickhenrysociety.com/t...-v-convention/
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Ted Cruz apparently supports a constitutional convention. His wife appears to have been part of the CFR scheme for a North American Union. Cruz supports the TPP (Trans Pacific Partnership). He apparently wants to expand and "strengthen" NICS checks for firearm purchases.

Yet another closet socialist commie foreignor masquerading as a pro-American, pro-freedom patriot.
http://www.patrickhenrysociety.com/t...-v-convention/
But but but he is good at debates.
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Old 10-14-2015, 06:01 PM
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I would note that you almost always reference some obscure website.

Regarding his wife, Heidi, at CFR, she was a term member, along with the other thousands of members. She joined trying to promote conservative values, much like John Bolton. Her term expired before Ted Cruz attacked the organization calling them, “a pit of vipers”. LOL!

Regarding the Convention of States, it simply puts the balance of power back to the states. The states have the ultimate authority and should use that authority against the unbridled federal bureaucracy in the 3 branches of government who are not keeping a balance of power, but are mutating and enforcing each other. That is not how a constitutional republic is supposed to work.

So, again, you are fear mongering instead of pointing to the fact that Article V of the Constitution gives states the right and the power in two ways:

1. By two-thirds majorities in both houses of Congress
2. By a convention called by two-thirds of the state legislatures.

Whichever way an amendment is proposed, however, it cannot become part of the Constitution unless it is ratified by three-quarters of the states.

On TPP, you keep spreading a lie, Esaias. Sen. Ted Cruz believes, like Reagan in free trade. However, TPP has not been voted on as yet. Sen. Ted Cruz's exact wording is thus:

And please note the difference between TPA and TPP:

TPP is a trade deal being negotiated in secret by the Obama administration. It’s so secret that if a Congressman wanted to read it, they have to go into a secure facility, leaving all electronic devices outside, and can’t even take notes.

TPA authorizes the president to negotiate trade deals but includes 150 negotiating points that must be included in the final deal and requires the final agreement, once negotiated, be made public for 60 days and then gives Congress, including the House of Representatives, the power to vote up or down on the deal. Under TPA, Congress includes directives to negotiators and requires the deal be made public. That’s less power.

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The American people do not trust President Obama. And they do not trust Republican leadership in Congress. And the reason is simple: for far too long, politicians in Washington have not told the truth.

Both President Obama and Republican leadership are pressing trade promotion authority, also known as TPA, or “fast-track.” Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) and Sen. Harry Reid (D-NV)both oppose it.

As a general matter, I agree (as did Ronald Reagan) that free trade is good for America; when we open up foreign markets, it helps American farmers, ranchers, and manufacturers.

But TPA in this Congress has become enmeshed in corrupt Washington backroom deal-making, along with serious concerns that it would open up the potential for sweeping changes in our laws that trade agreements typically do not include.

Since the Senate first voted on TPA, there have been two material changes.

First, WikiLeaks subsequently revealed new troubling information regarding the Trade in Services Agreement, or TiSA, one of the trade deals being negotiated by Obama.

Despite the administration’s public assurances that it was not negotiating on immigration, several chapters of the TiSA draft posted online explicitly contained potential changes in federal immigration law. TPA would cover TiSA, and therefore these changes would presumably be subject to fast-track.

When TPA last came up for a vote, both Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL) and I introduced amendments that would have barred fast-track treatment for any trade agreement that attempted to impact immigration law. Two other Republican senators objected, and we were both denied votes on our amendments. Instead, the House inserted substantially weaker language in related legislation.

At the time that Sessions and I introduced our amendments, many said our fears were unfounded. But now we have far more reason to be concerned.

Second, TPA’s progress through the House and Senate appears to have been made possible by secret deals between Republican Leadership and the Democrats.

When TPA first came up for a vote in the Senate, it was blocked by a group of senators, led by Sen. Maria Cantwell (D-WA) and Sen. Lindsey Graham R-SC), both of whom were conditioning their support on the unrelated objective of reauthorizing the Export-Import Bank.

The Ex-Im Bank is a classic example of corporate welfare. It is cronyism at its worst, with U.S. taxpayers guaranteeing billions of dollars in loans for sketchy buyers in foreign nations. Ex-Im is scheduled to wind down on June 30. But powerful lobbyists in Washington want to keep the money flowing.

After witnessing several senators huddle on the floor the day of the TPA vote, I suspected that to get their votes on TPA, Republican Leadership had promised supporters of Ex-Im a vote to reauthorize the bank before it winds down.

At lunch that day, I asked Majority Leader Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-KY) what precise deal had been cut to pass TPA. Visibly irritated, he told me and all my Republican colleagues that there was no deal whatsoever; rather, he simply told them they could use the ordinary rules to offer whatever amendments they wanted on future legislation.

Taking McConnell at his word that there was no deal on Ex-Im, I voted yes on TPA because I believe the U.S. generally benefits from free trade, and without TPA historically there have been no free-trade agreements.

But then the vote went to the House. Nancy Pelosi, to the surprise of many, led House Democrats to oppose TPA en masse. (Technically, they voted against TAA, which was wrapped into the deal on TPA.)

At that point a group of House conservatives went to Speaker Boehner and said they could support TPA if Boehner agreed not to cut a deal with Democrats on Ex-Im, and just let the bank expire.

Boehner declined. Instead, it appears he made the deal with Democrats, presumably tossing in the Ex-Im Bank and also increasing tax penalties on businesses.

Moreover, the Speaker punished conservatives, wrongly stripping Rep. Mark Meadows (R-NC) of his subcommittee chairmanship, and reportedly threatening to strip other conservatives of their chairmanships as well.

Why does Republican Leadership always give in to the Democrats? Why does Leadership always disregard the promises made to the conservative grassroots?

Enough is enough. I cannot vote for TPA unless McConnell and Boehner both commit publicly to allow the Ex-Im Bank to expire—and stay expired. And, Congress must also pass the Cruz-Sessions amendments to TPA to ensure that no trade agreement can try to back-door changes to our immigration laws. Otherwise, I will have no choice but to vote no.

There’s too much corporate welfare, too much cronyism and corrupt dealmaking, by the Washington cartel. For too long, career politicians in both parties have supported government of the lobbyist, by the lobbyist, and for the lobbyist – at the expense of the taxpayers. It’s a time for truth. And a time to honor our commitments to the voters.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...room-dealings/
The details on the NICS bill that Grassley and Cruz put out together. And please note that the Guns Owners of America, who are more conservative than the NRA have endorsed Ted Cruz's presidential bid.
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Here’s the full summary of legislative provisions:

• Improve and reauthorize grants for NICS database;

• Require federal courts to submit relevant information to NICS;

• Ensure that relevant mental health records are submitted by states to NICS;

• Condition federal grant money for states on their submission of mental health records to NICS;

• Increase federal prosecution of gun violence by establishing the Nationwide Project Exile Program and establishing a high level federal taskforce;

• Study of the causes of mass shootings;

• Responsibly addresses gun violence by criminalizing straw purchasing of firearms and gun trafficking;

• Second Amendment Protections for Veterans;

• Require the Department of Justice to explain to Congress why it has or has not been prosecuting gun cases;

• Place Limitations on Fast & Furious type operations by DOJ;

• Authorize FFL’s to utilize the NICS database to for voluntary background checks of employees;

• Authorize FFL’s to access the FBI’s National Crime Information Center stolen gun database to ensure that a firearm is not stolen prior to acquisition;

• Reauthorize the Mentally Ill Offender Treatment and Crime Reduction Act (MIOTCRA) with amendments;

• Address school safety by Reauthorizes the Community Oriented Policing Services (COPS) Secure our Schools Program through 2023.
http://bearingarms.com/sens-cruz-gra...lacement-bill/
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Gun Owners of America is proud to endorse Senator Ted Cruz for the office of President of the United States.

While there are many candidates in the race, Ted Cruz is the only one who has completed and returned the GOA presidential survey on the Second Amendment.
http://www.gunowners.org/alert982015.htm
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And let me also add something regarding the H1B visas, since that is another bone of contention for you. LOL!

1) H1b is not an "immigrant" visa

2) 325,000 H1b visa holders (what Cruz asked for in his amendment) is NOT a big number compared to immigration limits in general or compared to illegal aliens.

3) H1b visa holders are not illegal aliens

4) Cruz only used that number in an amendment fight to help stop the Gang-of-Eight bill. It's not a number he's asking for in his immigration plan. It was purely a way to show that the Dems didn't want quality immigrants.

5) H1b visas are not being used to replace American workers at any significant level. A few corporations have abused the H1b process like that, and they've been called out on it. Disney even changed its mind with part of the layoffs because of that reaction.

6) Legal workers and quality immigrants who speak English and have employment are not the problem. The problem is other visa types that offer refugee status and even immigration status to poor, unskilled, non-English speakers who will not assimilate.

7) We take in over a million "immigrants" each year. (H1b visa holders are not counted among them due to Item 1, above). A huge number of them are "refugees" whom Obama is importing to destroy our culture. These so-called refugees are people who will not assimilate, are not well educated, do not speak English, and do not like (and in fact many actively hate) America.

8) Those refugees will get green cards almost immediately, without having to go through any of the expense and wait and paperwork that "real" immigrants have to deal with.

Cruz is correct on this issue. He knows the numbers, and he knows that we do need more quality immigrants and legal resident workers, and we need to stop giving permanent resident status to people that are not qualifed to emigrate to America.

Please also note that many H1b visa holders, who come here from countries where they get good educations and are not usually anti-capitalism, are the kind of people who actually WANT to go back home after being here a few years, so they can return to their families. Their work experience here helps them to get good jobs in their country of origin.
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I bet Esaias saw some black helicopters today.
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I bet Esaias saw some black helicopters today.
No, I was too busy taking pics of the cattle cars with the shackles in them.

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PO why are you using Logic, reason and truth in a discussion about crazy conspiracy theories?
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PO why are you using Logic, reason and truth in a discussion about crazy conspiracy theories?
Everybody said the European Union was a crazy conspiracy theory, that it didn't exist, would never happen, etc. Yet, voila! Here we area (and have been for some time).

The TPP is real, if you deny it's existence you are living with your head in the sand.

The North American Union is real, how can you deny this? How can you deny the existence of powerful government and business leaders signing treaties and making agreements that follow think-tank plans and olicies for the creation of a North American Union and global government. Oh wait, you just stick your fingers in the ears and go 'tra la la la la' and it all goes away, right?

Ted Cruz supports the destruction of American national sovereignty. He supports the TPP. He supports expanded federal encroachments on the second Amendment. He supports increasing the number of foreign workers in America at a time when we have higher citizen unemployment than during the GREAT DEPRESSION.

Ted Cruz's wife works for Goldman Sachs. She (According to the information I have seen, haven't seen anything refuting it) apparently helped develop the CFR plan for the North American Union.

You people need to wake up, things are not the technicolour fairy tale you have been told it was.
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Everybody said the European Union was a crazy conspiracy theory, that it didn't exist, would never happen, etc. Yet, voila! Here we area (and have been for some time).

no they didn't...

it was an idea that at one point was thought to be impossible but as those nations came closer and closer together, it became a possibility and then it became a reality .

but there was no conspiracy. It was an idea that was out in the open and written about and from that the EU was born.

nothing about that was conspiratorial.

TPP may happen. its pretty much out there to happen. what the final shape will be remains to be seen but its not some wild NWO conspiracy.

Nor is Cruz a crackpot commie. good grief dude.
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no they didn't...

it was an idea that at one point was thought to be impossible but as those nations came closer and closer together, it became a possibility and then it became a reality .

but there was no conspiracy. It was an idea that was out in the open and written about and from that the EU was born.

nothing about that was conspiratorial.

TPP may happen. its pretty much out there to happen. what the final shape will be remains to be seen but its not some wild NWO conspiracy.

Nor is Cruz a crackpot commie. good grief dude.
This is my point. The TPP, the NAU, NAFTA, GATT, etc etc etc are NOT SECRET CONSPIRACIES. The people in a position to make them happen have been saying that is what they are doing, they've been saying it for over a hundred years. The information is entirely PUBLIC. The ones orchestrating these things have been publicly talking about it.

BUT, the masses said, and continue to say, "O poo, it's all a bunch of conspiracy theories, never happen, blah blah blah." Anyone who says 'Hey, lookie here, see what's going on?" is almost immediately tarred with the 'conspiracy theory' brush as if that accusation has any bearing whatsoever on anything.

Think it's time we stop - Hey, what's that sound? Everybody look what's goin' down... all the mammoths are in the ground... oops, sorry bout that... had one of my moments ...

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