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Old 10-10-2007, 09:17 AM
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Why aren't there more African Americans in the UPC or the leadership of the UPC???

There is a precious young AA* lady in our church who recently married a PAW fella from out of state and it caused me to ask this question. Why on earth would any AA family with children want to join up with the UPC?

This young lady's mom was an Olympic sprinter and has a college degree, and in my mind would have been a wonderful catch for any man.

You also don't see any (to my knowledge) any AA's in the UPC leadership.

Why is that?



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Old 10-10-2007, 09:36 AM
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It has always been a very racist organization. In New Orleans John Cupit has his white church and his black church.
My father was always troubled by the racism in the UPC.
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Old 10-10-2007, 09:42 AM
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well i obviously cant speak for the organization, but after being around for over 37 years, two observations, most of the upc churches dont have a lot of americans of african descent in them, and also most of the people i know who are americans of african descent go to black pentecostal churches by choice, this is my experience , especially in the south, dt
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Old 10-10-2007, 09:45 AM
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The UPC church I attend is pretty much half black & half white.
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Old 10-10-2007, 09:47 AM
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I was strongly at odds with a few posters here when I suggested that a certain minister on the youth committee would never be the GYD Youth President because the full body of ministers in the UPC would never vote him into that position.

I gave a challenge and am still waiting for these men to answer on one minority, specifically a black man or woman who has been voted in, by the full body of ministers, to a major department position. ie HMD, FMD, General Sup, Asst Sup, GYD YP, Ladies President, etc.

Thus far the silence is deafening . . .
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Old 10-10-2007, 09:48 AM
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Sunday has always been the most segregated day of the week in America.

By and large, I know pastors that would love to reach out to the AA community but if they do they know they will have a war on their hands in their church. I have seen that happen.

in the beginning the UPCI was a very white organization founded in the midst of a racisit society. Many pastors werent racist but understood that it was just better for the PAW and UPCI to exist beside each other.

in recent years, I believe there have been moves by leadership to correct a lot of that, but we are 40 years behind.

The good news is that there are places like my church where the congregation is very mixed. we are approaching 1/3 white, 1/3 black 1/3 hispanic. We also have a good number of Asians as well. We have a Burmese work that meets seperately at our church that is running 100+. That is by their choice and many of them also come to our regular services.
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Old 10-10-2007, 09:50 AM
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The UPC church I attend is pretty much half black & half white.
our church which is in the north has many black members also, and a lot of the churches in the north that i am familiar with have the same thing, i believe all people should be looked at as just that people, regardless of ethnicity, the church of god is just that the church, all of us make up the body, dt
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Old 10-10-2007, 09:52 AM
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Why isn't there more white leadership in the PAW and the Apostolic Assemblies?
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Old 10-10-2007, 09:56 AM
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Why isn't there more white leadership in the PAW and the Apostolic Assemblies?
that is a very good question my friend, and i believe it goes back to choice, there are and will remain organizations that are divided in some way , i was wondering when someone would ask that, dt
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Carp...you need to come out WEST. The churches here are very multi-cultural.

You would need to ask the ministerial brethren why they have not voted more African-Americans in...however, I do not think it all has to do with race. There seems to be more diversity among the General Youth Board then other boards at HQ.
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