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05-08-2008, 04:09 PM
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Bush Signs Law to Collect Children's DNA
Below is an article that describes a law that requires the collection of DNA from all newborns. No consent is required. Can you feel all the "patriotic" love dt?
http://www.infowars.com/?p=1896
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05-08-2008, 04:16 PM
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Re: Bush Signs Law to Collect Children's DNA
There is a bill....it is about children....but just because Alex Jones says it mandatory requires them to take dna samples from our kids I can't say that is the truth. Jones is suspect IMO
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05-08-2008, 04:22 PM
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Cross-examine it!
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Re: Bush Signs Law to Collect Children's DNA
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
There is a bill....it is about children....but just because Alex Jones says it mandatory requires them to take dna samples from our kids I can't say that is the truth. Jones is suspect IMO
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I took the time to browse the bill, which is about GRANTS for screening. Here is the Bills stated purpose. It is about screening for diseases.
To amend the Public Health Service Act to establish grant programs to provide for education and outreach on newborn screening and coordinated followup care once newborn screening has been conducted, to reauthorize programs under part A of title XI of such Act, and for other purposes...
shall award grants to eligible entities to enable such entities--
`(1) to enhance, improve or expand the ability of State and local public health agencies to provide screening, counseling, or health care services to newborns and children having or at risk for heritable disorders;
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05-08-2008, 04:27 PM
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Re: Bush Signs Law to Collect Children's DNA
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
There is a bill....it is about children....but just because Alex Jones says it mandatory requires them to take dna samples from our kids I can't say that is the truth. Jones is suspect IMO
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here is the same info from world net daily
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=63112
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05-08-2008, 04:41 PM
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Re: Bush Signs Law to Collect Children's DNA
I just watched an interesting documentary on how seeds have been patented and how some of those seeds blew into farmers fields and produced plants. The farmer didn't want them there nor did he plant them there. The company that owned the seeds found out that he was growing them there and sued him. The seeds cross pollinated with his seeds and now his seeds are contaminated and he has to destroy them all because of the patents on the seeds dna. This has happened to quite a few farmers and most of them settle out of court and aren't allowed to talk about the settlement. This documentary was also stating that the danger of patenting a live thing because it is constantly growing and changing. They went on to say that if the genes of people were patented then people could be owned. I am not going into throughly and probably not making much since. For them to have a data base of everyone's genes and doing it without people being aware of it makes me wonder why.
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05-08-2008, 04:27 PM
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Re: Bush Signs Law to Collect Children's DNA
There are lots of things babies are tested for at birth, without any consent from parents. I don't see what the big deal is. When you think about it, having a record of DNA could prove to be beneficial, especially in missing person situations when an unidentified body is found. With a DNA database people would more easily be identified.
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05-08-2008, 04:38 PM
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Re: Bush Signs Law to Collect Children's DNA
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There are lots of things babies are tested for at birth, without any consent from parents. I don't see what the big deal is. When you think about it, having a record of DNA could prove to be beneficial, especially in missing person situations when an unidentified body is found. With a DNA database people would more easily be identified.
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I don't think you see the danger of potential genetic discrimination or the infringemnt of medical privacy by the federal gov't. It's one step closer to a totalitarian police state and when all of your privacy rights are gone it will be too late to protest.
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05-08-2008, 04:40 PM
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Re: Bush Signs Law to Collect Children's DNA
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I don't think you see the danger of potential genetic discrimination or the infringemnt of medical privacy by the federal gov't. It's one step closer to a totalitarian police state and when all of your privacy rights are gone it will be too late to protest.
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Yeah, yeah. I know. The sky is falling, the government is out to get us, yada, yada. Are babies discriminated against by the government now, with all the tests done on them at birth?
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05-08-2008, 04:47 PM
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Re: Bush Signs Law to Collect Children's DNA
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Yeah, yeah. I know. The sky is falling, the government is out to get us, yada, yada. Are babies discriminated against by the government now, with all the tests done on them at birth?
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A lot of the tests they do during pregnancy for genetics come back negative when there isn't anything wrong and the parents go through undue stress, even to the point of aborting.
The one thing that really gets me is when my daughter was born she got a hepatitis vaccine that had enough mercury in it for a 500lb person. Why would they have that much mercury in a vaccine for a little one whose immune system isn't fully functioning yet.
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05-08-2008, 04:52 PM
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Re: Bush Signs Law to Collect Children's DNA
"Soon, under this bill, the important DNA of all citizens will be housed in government genomic biobanks and considered governmental property for government research," said Twila Brase, president of the Citizens' Council on Health Care. "The DNA taken at birth from every citizen is essentially owned by the government, and every citizen becomes a potential subject of government-sponsored genetic research."
The bill, she said, strips "citizens of genetic privacy rights and DNA property rights. It bill also violates research ethics and the Nuremberg Code.
"The public is clueless. S. 1858 imposes a federal agenda of DNA databanking and population-wide genetic research," Brase continued. "It does not require consent and there are no requirements to fully inform parents about the warehousing of their child's DNA for the purpose of genetic research.
"Already, in Minnesota, the state health department reports that 42,210 children of the 780,000 whose DNA is housed in the Minnesota 'DNA warehouse' have been subjected to genetic research without their parent's knowledge or consent," she said.
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