Personal Convictions

[Praxeas]

Where do personal convinctions come from? I was reading a poster talking about it being wrong to go against the or rebellious...as though God is the one that made them..

But if that were true that would mean God has different laws for different people and that would mean the bible is NOT our sole rule of faith, but that our faith can be arbitrary and be different from person to person

[Rico]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Where do personal convinctions come from? I was reading a poster talking about it being wrong to go against the or rebellious...as though God is the one that made them..

But if that were true that would mean God has different laws for different people and that would mean the bible is NOT our sole rule of faith, but that our faith can be arbitrary and be different from person to person

Brother, I have 4 children. We have the rules that all of them must follow, and then there are specific things each one is allowed or not allowed to do based on their character, strengths, weaknesses, etc. Why would it be any different with God?

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Rico

Brother, I have 4 children. We have the rules that all of them must follow, and then there are specific things each one is allowed or not allowed to do based on their character, strengths, weaknesses, etc. Why would it be any different with God?

Why would it NOT be any different with God? Does the word of God say this is so? The thing is we are warned about comparing God to other things. How can we decide what God is like by making a comparison to ourselves? This is the fallacy that some of the Universal Reconciliationists fall into. They reason "God is like me or I am like God, so therefore if I would save everyone even Hitler then God must think like I do and thus it must be true"

The other thing is what you said here is simply not comparable to begin with. We are talking about Eternal things compared to temporal things. We are talking about heaven and hell issues compared to what you are talking about. Personal convictions are PERSONAL. They are from ourselves, not from God

[Rico]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Why would it NOT be any different with God? Does the word of God say this is so? The thing is we are warned about comparing God to other things. How can we decide what God is like by making a comparison to ourselves? This is the fallacy that some of the Universal Reconciliationists fall into. They reason "God is like me or I am like God, so therefore if I would save everyone even Hitler then God must think like I do and thus it must be true"

The other thing is what you said here is simply not comparable to begin with. We are talking about Eternal things compared to temporal things. We are talking about heaven and hell issues compared to what you are talking about. Personal convictions are PERSONAL. They are from ourselves, not from God

Brother, God saves us as individuals, with our own strengths and weaknesses. I don't believe God uses a cookie cutter approach with us, other than the initial entry requirements.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Rico

Brother, God saves us as individuals, with our own strengths and weaknesses. I don't believe God uses a cookie cutter approach with us, other than the initial entry requirements.

While this is true God saves us as individuals God still saves us based on what the bible says.

This argument can be used for moral relativism. Someone can say "Well what is true for you might not be true for me. God does not use a cookie cutter approach, so I can be gay and God is fine with it where as for that is not fine"

This is why I made my argument about sola scriptura.

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Why would it NOT be any different with God? Does the word of God say this is so? The thing is we are warned about comparing God to other things. How can we decide what God is like by making a comparison to ourselves? This is the fallacy that some of the Universal Reconciliationists fall into. They reason "God is like me or I am like God, so therefore if I would save everyone even Hitler then God must think like I do and thus it must be true"

The other thing is what you said here is simply not comparable to begin with. We are talking about Eternal things compared to temporal things. We are talking about heaven and hell issues compared to what you are talking about. Personal convictions are PERSONAL. They are from ourselves, not from God

Why make the above statement, and then ask how they can be different from person to person? If they are from "ourselves", and each person is created uniquely by God, then how can their personal convictions not be as unique as their personality?

By the way, it is not a fallacy that God is like me because I am like God. We are created in His image, so many things we find in ourselves, we will also find in God. Take away the weaknesses, and we are usually a reflection of our creator. Sure, some take it too far, but in and of itself it is fair to say that we are created in His image. Scripture illustrates the similarities between God and His creation numerous times.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Why make the above statement, and then ask how they can be different from person to person?

I didn't ask "how can they be different from person to person".

My point was that PERSONAL convictions are NOT from God. They are YOUR personal conviction. They are therefore NOT necessarily a sin nor are they God saying something is a sin for one person and not for another. That is my point

If they are from "ourselves", and each person is created uniquely by God, then how can their personal convictions not be as unique as their personality?

I never SAID ANYTHING remotely like what you are trying to pin on me,

By the way, it is not a fallacy that God is like me because I am like God. We are created in His image, so many things we find in ourselves, we will also find in God. Take away the weaknesses, and we are usually a reflection of our creator. Sure, some take it too far, but in and of itself it is fair to say that we are created in His image. Scripture illustrates the similarities between God and His creation numerous times.

Again you mis understand what I said. I said it is a FALLACY to argue God is or thinks a certain way because I do. There are people arguing for UR and stating it must be so because this is what I would do and God is LIKE me so God must also feel that way.

Homosexuals reason "I don't see anything wrong with being gay and I was made to be LIKE God so therefore GOD must think the same way".

But we are told by Him "My thoughts are not your thoughts"....thus it is a fallacy to compare what you believe, think and feel to God and reason if I am like this then GOD must be like this.

I never said, NOT ONCE, that we don't have similarities. You guys are really missing the point lol

[CC1]

Prax,

I do believe one person can have "convictions" different from another and they be inspired from God.

For example I think a former dope addict might have to be careful about listening to the music that he listened to when he was getting high. There is a strong connection there that could cause him a stumbling block.

So for me to fondly listen to golden oldies from the good old 1960's may have a totally different spiritual implicaton than for that person.

I believe that person very well might have a God given "conviction" against listening to that music.

Of course in Pentecost historically the answer is just to ban outright for everybody anything that anybody might have a problem with or not be able to control or moderate!

[StillStanding]

If it's fun, I'm agin' it! (j/K)

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by CC1

Prax,

I do believe one person can have "convictions" different from another and they be inspired from God.

For example I think a former dope addict might have to be careful about listening to the music that he listened to when he was getting high. There is a strong connection there that could cause him a stumbling block.

So for me to fondly listen to golden oldies from the good old 1960's may have a totally different spiritual implicaton than for that person.

I believe that person very well might have a God given "conviction" against listening to that music.

Of course in Pentecost historically the answer is just to ban outright for everybody anything that anybody might have a problem with or not be able to control or moderate!

In your example, this is not necessarily a conviction from God, but a smart thing to do. It does not become a law unto himself that is a sin against God that others do not have to obey.

Rather it is a smart thing to do. It is a GOOD thing for him to do. It is the WISE thing to do. But that is far from making it a sin against God.

In your example it makes more sense though. But in talking about standards it just does not make much sense that God convicts some women to wear their hair up and others not to.