one-step doctrine

Dedicated Mind · #1 09-13-2007, 02:08 PM

speaking of moving beyond "the principles of the doctrine", I'm all for that seeing I get bored with some the the redundancy of the forum, but I can't get this one-step doctrine out of my mind. I have never heard of apostolics teaching this doctrine until I came to this forum. I was always of the notion that apostolics believed in 3 steps, repentance, water and sprit baptism. If one-step doctrine is true, does that mean that many people from protestant and catholic denominations are saved?? I sympatize with one-step because many of my family members are trinitarian pentecostals and I hope for their salvation, but my mind still believes that Jesus-name baptism is still needed. I don't mean to rehash salvation doctrine, but I do wish that one-step were true and that many more would be saved.

Malvaro · #2 09-13-2007, 02:33 PM

One step doctrine (of belief in Christ only) is false....

deltaguitar · #3 09-13-2007, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Malvaro

One step doctrine (of belief in Christ only) is false....

What about salvation at repentance?

#4 09-14-2007, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by deltaguitar

What about salvation at repentance?

And you call yourself a Pentecostal? I'm calling your pastor!

StillStanding · #5 09-13-2007, 02:37 PM

Those of the PCI persuasion believe in several steps.

BUT.......the salvation process begins with the first step.

deltaguitar · #6 09-13-2007, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Pianoman

Those of the PCI persuasion believe in several steps.

BUT.......the salvation process begins with the first step.

Growing up in the UPC my whole life I have found that many lay persons believe along the lines of PCI but don't dare mention it.

Even some folks who will teach the three-step doctrine as salvational because they are worried that people won't follow through with receiving the baptizm of the Holy Ghost.

I have often wondered why people are so scared of the PCI belief if the congragation usually ends up following all three steps anyway.

RevDWW · #7 09-13-2007, 02:52 PM

It's not steps it's ingredients........First you pour in the belief/repentance, then you can add in Holy Ghost baptism then Water baptism in Jesus Name, or Water Baptism then Holy Ghost Baptism, or Both baptisms at once........ Got to have all the ingredients to make the bread.......

HangingOut · #8 09-13-2007, 02:51 PM

Regardless of the one or three step beliefs, the bigger picture is where creedence to the cross lies. I came into the movement like many others on what I did or do to get saved with little emphasis on what Jesus did.
The result is various forms of confusion or unsettled issues throughout the circles evidenced in the last 15 years. Even before that, you had varied opinions on the "blood application" issue. Enough said. See the threads of choice for more on any of these.

deltaguitar · #9 09-13-2007, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by HangingOut

Regardless of the one or three step beliefs, the bigger picture is where creedence to the cross lies. I came into the movement like many others on what I did or do to get saved with little emphasis on what Jesus did.
The result is various forms of confusion or unsettled issues throughout the circles evidenced in the last 15 years. Even before that, you had varied opinions on the "blood application" issue. Enough said. See the threads of choice for more on any of these.

I agree. What ever happened to putting our faith in the finished work of Christ? I was UPC for 27 years and only during the last few years did I hear teaching on the Cross of Christ.

I am not an expert but if we can save ourselves what is the point of the Cross.

mizpeh · #10 09-13-2007, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by deltaguitar

I agree. What ever happened to putting our faith in the finished work of Christ? I was UPC for 27 years and only during the last few years did I hear teaching on the Cross of Christ.

I am not an expert but if we can save ourselves what is the point of the Cross.

How do we save ourselves if water baptism is for remission of sins? How are we able to remit sins or wash away our sins when we are baptised in water in Jesus name if only the blood of Christ can make us white as snow? Acts 2:38, Acts 22:16 My point is WE don't do a work when we are baptized, the Spirit of God does the work. Rom 2:28-29, Col 2:11-12, 1 Cor 12:13

Prov 20:9 Who can say, I have made my heart clean, I am pure from my sin?