How easy is it to Lose Salvation?

[rgcraig]

I believe it would be unrepented sin.

And it doesn't mean you can do something knowing that you can make it okay by repenting later.

[Socialite]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

I believe it would be unrepented sin.

And it doesn't mean you can do something knowing that you can make it okay by repenting later.

I'm amazed (at even myself) how we always have to make sure everyone knows you aren't saying they should sin!

But that's how strong our Grace message should be. Instead of the qualification, we ought to rest on that for awhile. Grace received authentically doesn't even really need such an obvious disclaimer. I don't want to waste such a precious gift.

RG -- unrepented, as in you didn't put it on your prayer list that night? Or as in a whole life staying on course, heart turned toward God?

[Charnock]

Originally Posted by Socialite

Do you have sin? Do you sin? Today? Last night?

When God looks at us, does he see our sin, or Christ's blood?

Excellent point!

There is none righteous. No, not one.

This idea that our works justify us is the biggest hindrance to real faith.

If it takes perfection, we are in big trouble.

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by Socialite

I'm amazed (at even myself) how we always have to make sure everyone knows you aren't saying they should sin!

But that's how strong our Grace message should be. Instead of the qualification, we ought to rest on that for awhile. Grace received authentically doesn't even really need such an obvious disclaimer. I don't want to waste such a precious gift.

RG -- unrepented, as in you didn't put it on your prayer list that night? Or as in a whole life staying on course, heart turned toward God?

As in - whole life staying on course, heart-turned toward God repentent.

Not, God, "if" I sinned today, please forgive me.

[MrMasterMind]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

I believe it would be unrepented sin.

And it doesn't mean you can do something knowing that you can make it okay by repenting later.

I believe it is possible to die even with "unrepented" sin, and still be saved.

It is much easier to be saved than we were taught, and much harder to lose it.

[BeenThinkin]

Originally Posted by MrMasterMind

I believe it is possible to die even with "unrepented" sin, and still be saved.

It is much easier to be saved than we were taught, and much harder to lose it.

I totally agree with you MrMasterMind! I guess that's why you're called MrMasterMind! And with the "if" I sinned prayer, I think that is still a good prayer for you could have sinned today with a "sin of omission" and really not be aware of it. Or maybe, if you don't know about it it's not sin! j/k

Been Thinkin

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by MrMasterMind

I believe it is possible to die even with "unrepented" sin, and still be saved.

It is much easier to be saved than we were taught, and much harder to lose it.

Perhaps.

However, I know it's a sin to commit adultery - if I engaged in adultery and didn't repent of it and change my life, I feel I would not be saved.

I don't feel that God has commandments to follow and would allow those to be committed and then still go to heaven.

The grace would be shown to me when I repented of committing adultery after knowing better.

[MrMasterMind]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

Perhaps.

However, I know it's a sin to commit adultery - if I engaged in adultery and didn't repent of it and change my life, I feel I would not be saved.

I don't feel that God has commandments to follow and would allow those to be committed and then still go to heaven.

The grace would be shown to me when I repented of committing adultery after knowing better.

If you die right after and have not had a chance to repent?

Would you automatically be out of covenant and therefore lost?

[Socialite]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

As in - whole life staying on course, heart-turned toward God repentent.

Not, God, "if" I sinned today, please forgive me.

Gotcha.

[Socialite]

Originally Posted by MrMasterMind

I believe it is possible to die even with "unrepented" sin, and still be saved.

It is much easier to be saved than we were taught, and much harder to lose it.