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Old 07-19-2019, 04:53 PM
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The opposite of eternal life is eternal death. Death was understood as sleep.
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No one has gotten grave and lake of fire confused in this discussion. Destruction in the lake of fire does NOT mean annihilation, especially since the torture there ascends from the eons of the eons. There is nothing defining cessation of torment. In fact, just the opposite.
Ok, I gotcha, so the grave is....a place of...
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Ok, I gotcha, so the grave is....a place of...
... dirt. For starters.
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... dirt. For starters.
And.....
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The wife and I have been hiking in northern Arizona/southern Utah for the past 20 years. The most beautiful canyons, formations and variations are in that entire west side of the Colorado plateau.
Really.... you wouldn’t happen to have relatives in....MOAB?
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Really.... you wouldn’t happen to have relatives in....MOAB?
No. Been there a number of times, to go to Arches, the Island District, other areas. But no.
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Come on, Bro B. No one is confused about the grave often referring to the burial location, if you think some connection can be manufactured to annihilation. It cannot.
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No. Been there a number of times, to go to Arches, the Island District, other areas. But no.
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Come on, Bro B. No one is confused about the grave often referring to the burial location, if you think some connection can be manufactured to annihilation. It cannot.
No manufacturing. Let’s go back to Matthew. Destroy body and soul in the grave.
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No manufacturing. Let’s go back to Matthew. Destroy body and soul in the grave.
Can't mean permanently. Death and hell (the grave, and/or beyond) give up all the dead for the White Throne Judgment. Right?
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