Women/Church/Abuse

[Trouvere]

wow never been in that situation.I can't imagine a gun to my head by
someone who claims to love me.It had to be awful.

[AmazingGrace]

I could sit and play the blame game with myself. My pastor and dad both had a really odd feeling about this guy (childhood school and church sweetheart of mine) and it hit them both as we were walking down the altar to get married my dad asked me coming down the stairs at the church if I wanted to change my mind and my pastor whispered in my ear that I could always change my mind.... In my mind my parents had already spent tons of money on this wedding and I already had the marriage license and I couldnt change it so I would well (what did I say doesnt work? the fixing the man part right?) well I thought I could work past his little problem and we could get him help and it would all be ok. They had no visible clue nor did I about the drugs but they soon came to full view for everyone to see...God just showed my dad and pastor before I knew or was I too blind to see it?

One will never know thats why I tell anyone if they know these things in advance of marriage just stay away please!!!

[Trouvere]

What a horrible experience.I have two daughters and I would rather they
not be abused.My husband says that he will tell anyone they marry
that if they ever decide they don't want to be married to them anymore just
drop them back off.We want them.We know of a man who had a beautiful
daughter who seperated from a man that was abusive.He ended up sneaking
into her new residence and gunning her down.The man cried as he told
my husband the story.You cannot get a life back.Its a precious thing.
Children should never be put in danger regardless if the woman feels guilty she should think of them first.

[ILG]

Originally Posted by Trouvere

I have a dear friend who is married to a man that has returned to drug abuse.She had to go out and put a restraining order against him.She has
been made to feel guilty defending herself in court against him.He terrorizes her and the children and breaks into the house and steals things and sells them.What does your church teach concerning such things.I would tell her to get the order.

Made to feel guilty by who? The church??

[Coonskinner]

Originally Posted by ILG

Made to feel guilty by who? The church??

I daresay individuals have done it, ILG.

That is not a position that would represent the majority of the Church.

[RevDWW]

Perhaps the big meanest ushers at church should find the guy and lay hands on him, with the intent of dissuading him form further bothering the poor women and children.............

My flesh has a hard time dealing with abusers of women and children and dogs..........

[ILG]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

I daresay individuals have done it, ILG.

That is not a position that would represent the majority of the Church.

CS,

In my job as a Family Advocate at a Domestic Abuse shelter, I see this blame game happening on a daily basis. It is a crying shame and helps me to understand to an extent why the liberals hate Christianity so much. The Bible says "For the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles because of you, as it is written" Romans 2:24. This means that is is the people of God's fault, many times, when non-Christians blaspheme the name of God. I have seen this over and over again and I have come to loathe the pharisees that condemn the victims of crime. This is prevalent in all Christiandom.....I have many Christian clients (in the larger sense of the word). Many, many have been told they are wrong and guilty for leaving.

On the flip side, it is the nature of abuse victims to minimize what they are going through or not be forthcoming about it. So, they may not get the support they need because of that....but, I think way too often, it is the church (at large) that fails them.

[Coonskinner]

I have never met a preacher who believed a woman had to stay with a man who was physically abusing her, and I have talked to a bunch of them about the subject.

I file this one right along with the one about fat Pentecostals.

[RevDWW]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

I have never met a preacher who believed a woman had to stay with a man who was physically abusing her, and I have talked to a bunch of them about the subject.

I file this one right along with the one about fat Pentecostals.

That there is funny

[RevDWW]

I was just thinking a few minutes ago about the scripture that talks about turning someone over to Satan for the destruction of the body that the soul might be saved......wouldn't it be better in these cases to turn the abuser over to a few Holy Ghost filled brethren for a huge attitude adjustment that the soul might find a place of repentance?????