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Bro-Larry · #31 10-12-2007, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ILG

That sounds sort of nuts, BL. I can't control my husband's healing nor my husband his own by quoting scripture and forgetting the problem exists. I think the best thing to do is trust God and chose to love others and be happy regardless of circumstances. Some people have been healed, some have died, some have suffered etc. What we control is Who we worship and chose to believe in regardless of the answer He gives us. I intend to look up and trust no matter how bleak or how awful. I'm not saying I'll even do a good job. I just try and let God fight the battle. I am hoping and believing for a good outcome. God is good......all the time. My husband's prognosis is supposed to be good, but I have friends whose son died after fasting, praying and giving it all to God. In the end, unless the Lord builds the house, they labor in vain that build it. I do believe my husband will be healed, but your answer doesn't seem based in solid biblical Christianity. Not that I don't appreciate the effort.

Dear Sis ILG,

I'm just trying to help you.

Matt 8:17 says Jesus has already taken our infirmities and borne our sicknesses. 1 Pet 2:24 says by His stripes we were healed. Both these scriptures are past tense. That means God has already done the work. All your husband has to do is hear and hear these truths (because faith comes by hearing and hearing) Rom 10:17. After he receives a mustard seed of faith, he should begin to say , " I am healed. " Not " I'm going to be healed". Mark 11:23 says that whatever he says with his mouth and does not doubt in his heart, but believes that what HE says shall come to pass, He shall have whatever HE says.

You can see by that scripture that this is something he must do for himself, you cannot do it for him. You said that you can't control his healing. You are exactly right.

ILG · #32 10-12-2007, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by big-larry

Dear Sis ILG,

I'm just trying to help you.

Matt 8:17 says Jesus has already taken our infirmities and borne our sicknesses. 1 Pet 2:24 says by His stripes we were healed. Both these scriptures are past tense. That means God has already done the work. All your husband has to do is hear and hear these truths (because faith comes by hearing and hearing) Rom 10:17. After he receives a mustard seed of faith, he should begin to say , " I am healed. " Not " I'm going to be healed". Mark 11:23 says that whatever he says with his mouth and does not doubt in his heart, but believes that what HE says shall come to pass, He shall have whatever HE says.

You can see by that scripture that this is something he must do for himself, you cannot do it for him. You said that you can't control his healing. You are exactly right.

I understand you were trying to help, but my husband can't control his healing either. I don't believe that a person can be healed by a repeat of healing scripture passages. If that were true, then everyone would be healed. I do appreciate your support and your prayers, but people are healed because God is soveriegn and He does as He wills. If God tells my husband to repeat a phrase and he obeys, he will be healed, but many are not healed who do exactly what you prescribe. I am not angry. I just know that it's not that simple.

Bro-Larry · #33 10-13-2007, 12:50 PM

It worked for me. On June 25, 07, my doctors gave me 120 days to live, it's now been 139 days and I'm still alive. Praise God.

ILG · #34 10-13-2007, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by big-larry

It worked for me. On June 25, 07, my doctors gave me 120 days to live, it's now been 139 days and I'm still alive. Praise God.

That's great! I would like to hear more of your story. I do believe that God heals, but (as you may have noticed) I don't believe that if a person just repeats scriptures and doesn't talk about the problem that they will be healed. Many have done that. That's not to discount your story. I thank and praise God for your healing and I know He is a great big God. But, I also know godly people who have believed for their healing and didn't obtain it. I believe my husband will be healed, but I try to put my faith in God and His sovereignty rather than in a formula for healing. I hope that makes sense to you. I'm sorry if I came across as ungrateful. Why don't you share your story?

Hoovie · #35 10-13-2007, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by big-larry

It worked for me. On June 25, 07, my doctors gave me 120 days to live, it's now been 139 days and I'm still alive. Praise God.

Trust me Larry, I am thrilled you are alive and well, but it is not because you discovered any prescribed formula or had a special kind of faith - It is primarily because it was the will of God.

Hoovie · #36 10-13-2007, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by big-larry

Jesus has already done the healing. All your husband needs to do is, find a scripture that promises healing and say it with a mustard seed of faith. Then forget about the problem. From that moment on, just give God praise. Don't tell anybody about the problem, don't talk about the problem. Don't think on the problem. Just talk about the answer as if you have it now. Keep doing that until you see it come to pass. (Mark 11:23-24)

There is no such scripture with universial application for us today.

The problem is Adam and the results of his sin are with us and will remain with us until death - at which time the Lord shall remove even the sting of death it's self.

Rhoni · #37 10-13-2007, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover

Trust me Larry, I am thrilled you are alive and well, but it is not because you discovered any prescribed formula or had a special kind of faith - It is primarily because it was the will of God.

Bro. Hoover & ILG,

Before I would discount Big Larry's story I would read his thread about his healing. I go to church with him and he is indeed a man of faith. God has healed him completely.

Read my story which I have posted as October 17, 1991. I do believe what Bro. Hoover said, It is the will of God that we are healed or not, but I also believe that the effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much. Prayer does change things as it did for Hezekiah and for me, as well as Bro. Larry.

ILG, I don't pretend to understand what you and your husband are going through right now. Life is not always fair, but God is always good. He will not leave or forsake us in time of trouble. He has promised to be our comfort and to go with us even until the end. He is as good as his word.

The Bible tells us that we are all given a measure of faith. When I pray I thank God that the train of His victories fills my temple. I trust him to answer my prayers because he has before. His answers do not always agree with mine but He has always been right.

It takes as much strength to believe negatively as it does to think positively...so choose the latter. We {many on AFF}and I will pray that God ease your husband's pain and take away the cause of it. It isn't against God's law to remind him of his promises and the stripes he took for our healing. Pray and speak his word into your life. It isn't in anything you can or can't do but it encourages you and let's God know you are there and need him.

Love & Prayers, Sis. Rhonda

Bro-Larry · #38 10-13-2007, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover

There is no such scripture with universial application for us today.

The problem is Adam and the results of his sin are with us and will remain with us until death - at which time the Lord shall remove even the sting of death it's self.

Steven, if you don't believe it, don't worry, it won't work for you.

ILG · #39 10-13-2007, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Rhoni

Bro. Hoover & ILG,

Before I would discount Big Larry's story I would read his thread about his healing. I go to church with him and he is indeed a man of faith. God has healed him completely.

I didn't discount Larry's story at all. I said that I don't think that just because someone quotes and repeats scriptures and forgets the problem that they are guaranteed healing. That is what Bro. Larry pretty much said. Anyway, I am waiting to hear his story. Point me in that direction. Where is it?

Hoovie · #40 10-13-2007, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by big-larry

Jesus has already done the healing. All your husband needs to do is, find a scripture that promises healing and say it with a mustard seed of faith. Then forget about the problem. From that moment on, just give God praise. Don't tell anybody about the problem, don't talk about the problem. Don't think on the problem. Just talk about the answer as if you have it now. Keep doing that until you see it come to pass. (Mark 11:23-24)

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Originally Posted by big-larry

It worked for me. On June 25, 07, my doctors gave me 120 days to live, it's now been 139 days and I'm still alive. Praise God.

I can readily accept that you have recieved a miracle of healing. I cannot accept the premise you set forth here since I believe it supposes too much.

The problem Larry, is that many, many have the aforementioned mustard seed faith and even greater, believe wholly in His promises, and face long term illness, suffering and death from the illness. It is the human condition that God can and does make exception to at times. To say the exception should be the rule for Christians is damaging and harmful. I have personally seen people lose their faith entirely over this issue.

I am certainly NOT opposed to making our wishes and desires known to God, but in my opinion, we would do well to end each and every pray with NEVERTHELESS, NOT MY WILL BUT THINE BE DONE.