Going back to the UPC

[BrotherEastman]

Originally Posted by JTULLOCK

Hello all-
Well some if not most of you know that I had left the UPC church I went to, but my wife and daugther stayed. Well this has put a strain on us alittle and has hurt my relationship with her family. Well my daughter is almost 2 and I came to the decision of returning to the UPC for now and maybe forever. This will keep the consitancy in raising our child/children. As oppose to them choosing to go the charasmatic church with me and maybe getting confused on the teaching. I will definately raise my kids right. My wife and I see eye to eye on most if not all issues, but she just can not leave there. So back I go. What do you all think? I am curious to hear what you all have to say.

Coming back to the fold? Congrats!:biggrin: I guess the conservatives wore you down. LOL! *you know I'm just kidding, right?*

[BrotherEastman]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Self-sacrifice and denial is exactly the Christ-like model ... Husbands are instructed to love their wives the way Christ loves the church.

As long as you are not sacrificing the TRUTH .. Jesus Christ ... in the process ... do what's best for your family, JT ...

Despite what we all think.

Great post Dan!

[Rico]

Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

Coming back to the fold? Congrats!:biggrin: I guess the conservatives wore you down. LOL! *you know I'm just kidding, right?*

No you ain't! Yer just tryin to get sunthin started you troublemaker!
































How ya been, Bro.?

[Jack Shephard]

Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

Coming back to the fold? Congrats!:biggrin: I guess the conservatives wore you down. LOL! *you know I'm just kidding, right?*

Yeah them cons wore me out, especially my father-in-law. LOL I am glad to be in the same place as my family even though I do not follow all the church teaches I can be fine there. Thanks for the warm welcome back.

[BrotherEastman]

Originally Posted by Rico

No you ain't! Yer just tryin to get sunthin started you troublemaker!
































How ya been, Bro.?

Busy! Working, training, preaching, reaching the lost, going to church, going to college, praying, spending time with the family, and trying to keep my sanity all at the same time! You?

[Jack Shephard]

Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

Busy! Working, training, preaching, reaching the lost, going to church, going to college, praying, spending time with the family, and trying to keep my sanity all at the same time! You?

Sooooo ah nothing productive eh? LOL

[Rico]

Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

Busy! Working, training, preaching, reaching the lost, going to church, going to college, praying, spending time with the family, and trying to keep my sanity all at the same time! You?

Same old same old around here. We finally moved out of the government housing. My son is now around 6'1". My oldest daughter is really smart, almost too smart for her own good. The wife started a new job today. It looks like I am going back to work from home at least until I can find an insurance agency I can take over! Still no home church.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by GodsBabyGirl

I dont judge anyone's holiness on what they wear. Thats judging after the flesh.

Thats carnal. And we can miss God looking at outer appearances.

We have to judge folks after the SPIRIT.

I didnt see this woman, she may or may not be godly.

I wasn't referring to "standards" when I addressed this woman. I was speaking of modesty in general. I am of the opinion that borderline Daisy Duke shorts and cleavage are not modest. I don't believe that would represent the Church of God as a modest and godly woman.

The Bibles says:

I Timothy 2:9 "In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;"

shamefacedness has been taught as wearing no makeup, but that is erroneous. It has the implication to look with eyes downward toward a man in bashfulness carrying the meaning of presenting yourself as a godly woman in behaviour and dress toward the opposite sex and the world in general.

Whether that is pants, dress or skirt, it is all about modesty.

I am also of the opinion that if a woman is godly, in her heart, she will dress modestly on the outside. Both should line up - the spirit, which includes conduct, and the dress.

We are instructed to judge with righteousness judgment. Therefore, by the Word of God we judge. I do not consider it carnal to evaluate, you call it judging, what someone is wearing and how they conduct themselves in the community. I do this with people that want to be my friend. I must decide if they will be an asset in my life or a hindrance to my walk with God.

Again, since we appear to have to hold hands to guide us through the thinking process, I am not speaking of "standards", but modesty. We all seem to be a bit touchy on this subject. I include myself in that statement.

When I see or hear of a church across town that claims to be "spirit-filled" but has no standard of dress -that embraces modesty in my definition - then naturally I want to know about that. I want to see if something clicks with my spirit. When I meet leaders from said church and they are in public and not dressed in modest clothing, I know that I don't want to be a part of that congregation. It is important to me and my family.

[Sister Alvear]

Praying for you Rico...do you still live in the same area?

[Sister Alvear]

speaking of modesty ...it means different things to different people...