YIKES! The Chip Is Here! you gotta see this!

[Cindy]

I like Lays Potato Chips.

[RandyWayne]

These are the only "Chips" you need to worry about.....

[Cindy]

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

These are the only "Chips" you need to worry about.....

Hahaha, Texas State Troopers make those look like little boys playing dress up.

[StMark]

It's shocking to me that people are mocking this. If this came upon us 20 years we would all be freaking out but they have conditioned even the church to accept the one world government and the mark of the beast.


The condition of the church is just astounding to me.


You see, at first they are making this optional. but it wont be long that most will receive it willfully and many saints will go right along with the system and mock those who don't

[Rico]

Originally Posted by StMark

It's shocking to me that people are mocking this. If this came upon us 20 years we would all be freaking out but they have conditioned even the church to accept the one world government and the mark of the beast.


The condition of the church is just astounding to me.


You see, at first they are making this optional. but it wont be long that most will receive it willfully and many saints will go right along with the system and mock those who don't

I heard the same argument made about ATM cards. "In 20-30 years you won't be able to buy anything without one of these cards. Fraud will be so rampant that the government will be forced to institute the practice of implanting a chip, with your bank information in it, to stop all the fraud." That never materialized either. Every generation thinks theirs will be "the one" when all this end time stuff happens and Jesus comes back.

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by StMark

It's shocking to me that people are mocking this. If this came upon us 20 years we would all be freaking out but they have conditioned even the church to accept the one world government and the mark of the beast.


The condition of the church is just astounding to me.


You see, at first they are making this optional. but it wont be long that most will receive it willfully and many saints will go right along with the system and mock those who don't

People WERE freaking out 20 years ago over this. Every time there was a story about computers, or heaven forbid, a "UPC" symbol on a package. People laid awake at night thinking that "this" may be the night that the rapture takes place. After all, ALL the signs are here.
When the time comes, the power of the computer and internet will no doubt make world wide enforcement of "the mark" possible, but the technology itself is NOT the the mark.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Aquila

This chip is a threat to freedom. But I'm cautious in calling it the "mark of the beast". The Bible doesn't reference a microchip. Here's the text:

Revelation 13:16-18
16And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
18Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

Three things are warned against: the mark, the name, and the number of the name.

Let's just focus on the "mark". The word "mark" in the Greek means:

5480 // caragma // charagma // khar'-ag-mah //

from the same as 5482 ; TDNT - 9:416,1308; n n

AV - mark 8, graven 1; 9

1) a stamp, an imprinted mark
1a) of the mark stamped on the forehead or the right hand as the
badge of the followers of the Antichrist
1b) the mark branded upon horses
2) thing carved, sculpture, graven work
2a) of idolatrous images

The "mark" has to do with a branding or etching burned or stamped permanently upon the skin of the right hand or the forehead. This is a microchip inserted under the skin of the arm. Tell me...how does this meet the description of the biblical "mark"?

Also consider this, John told his readers,

Revelation 13:18
18Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

Who would his original readers have understood him as warning them about?

This microchip may not be "the mark" of "the beast" in Scripture. But no doubt it is a danger to liberty and privacy. I see as "a mark" of the world system we are currently dealing with. But "the mark"? I'm not so sure. I think we loose creditability when we sound the alarm over and over and over about things that don't prove to be what we warn that they are. We need to warn people about the very real dangers this poses to our liberties without saying it's the mark. When we have something etched or burned onto the skin of the right hand or forehead that represents the name or contains the number of the name of a maniacal madman....sound the alarm.

How is a first century person supposed to know what a chip is? This is a vision. OF course the bible does not mention micro chips. And Revelation is very symbolic. What we know is they will receive some kind of mark. It will be used for buying or selling goods and it will somehow represent the beast

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by StMark

It's shocking to me that people are mocking this. If this came upon us 20 years we would all be freaking out but they have conditioned even the church to accept the one world government and the mark of the beast.


The condition of the church is just astounding to me.


You see, at first they are making this optional. but it wont be long that most will receive it willfully and many saints will go right along with the system and mock those who don't

The only problem is is that the antichrist causes all to receive the mark...or else...that is not what is happening now

[Brother Price]

Originally Posted by StMark

I'm not surprised one bit by this response.

I talked to a upc minister once who saw nothing wrong with taking the chip. He said it had no relation to the mark of the beast.

many will be deceived!

Mark, many have been deceived concerning the end times as spoken by Jesus. We must realize that the revelation of Jesus Christ was a vision, and the things spoken there are symbolic and spiritual. The Mark is not a physical mark/chip, but is symbolic of one surrendering their mind (forehead) and authority (right hand) to the enemy.

The chip will come and go. It was just what people said about Social Security numbers, and the new credit cards with the microchip in them.

My problem with the chip is one of personal security, privacy, and liberty. But, as touching it's relevance to Bible prophecy, it has none.

[bkstokes]

I agree with all of you that it is far fetched to think that this chip 20 centuries later has something to do with Revelations. However, I would never allow them to put anything in my right hand of forehead (just to be on the safe side).