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03-21-2007, 08:52 PM
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Formerly known as CareyM
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Oregon
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Originally Posted by philjones
Sis. Carey,
Are you sure you don't believe the Bride will be judged? What is your scriptural basis for that belief? It is appointed unto man once to die and after this the judgement. What about that scripture excludes the bride of Christ?
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I have lots of scripture to support why I don't believe the Bride will go through the judgment, but it would take a long time to type it all up and I've got my notes on it packed up already. Maybe once we get moved and settled, I'll post the entire thing...that's if I'm to a fight! LOL
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03-21-2007, 08:54 PM
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Formerly known as CareyM
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Oregon
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Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson
The Bride of Christ and the church are one in the same who else but the church is considered righteous?
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Well, I'm really afraid to get into it tonight...I don't have that much time. As I told Phil Jones, maybe once we get settled after our move I can sit down and post it all.
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03-21-2007, 09:39 PM
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"It's Never Too Late"
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Originally Posted by CareyM
I'm quite disturb about a situation or rather several and am curious what everyone thinks about the scripture that says "The righteous will scarcely be saved".
Who are the righteous?
If we believe and obey the Apostolic message and walk with God, are we barely going to make it in to heaven? Do we need to live in a state of constant repentance? (I'm not talking about having a repentant heart, but more out of fear)
Does this verse apply to those who are a part of the Bride of Christ?
Preachers, how do you use this verse to your congregation?
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Because many of the Righteous become self righteous....
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03-21-2007, 10:48 PM
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This verse makes me think of Noah and his family. Many historians have said that the world was more populated at Noahs time than today. If that is so and only 8 people were saved from the flood that is a scary thought.
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03-22-2007, 08:23 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Shreveport, LA
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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple
If you were repenting every day that would mean you commit sin every day. Those who commit sin continually will not be in Heaven.
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I don't repent only when I have sinned. I repent (have a change of mind, change direction) because I want to draw closer to the Lord. It may not necessarily be a sinful act I need to repent over. I may need to change my mind about how much time I spend on the internet and not studying His word, etc.
I think Paul's "I die daily" indicates a repentant heart, desiring to separate more and more from the carnal nature in himself (and us).
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03-22-2007, 08:35 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by philjones
Sis. Carey,
Are you sure you don't believe the Bride will be judged? What is your scriptural basis for that belief? It is appointed unto man once to die and after this the judgement. What about that scripture excludes the bride of Christ?
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The "judgement" in that passage is one that I think refers to the white throne judgement and not the judgement seat of Christ, the latter being only for Christians and is a trying of our works. Those works that survive the fire will be rewarded.
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03-22-2007, 08:59 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CareyM
I'm quite disturb about a situation or rather several and am curious what everyone thinks about the scripture that says "The righteous will scarcely be saved".
Who are the righteous?
The righteous are those that do right.
If we believe and obey the Apostolic message and walk with God, are we barely going to make it in to heaven? Do we need to live in a state of constant repentance? (I'm not talking about having a repentant heart, but more out of fear)
Paul said to die daily, I believe that means to repent.
Does this verse apply to those who are a part of the Bride of Christ?
I believe it applies to all including the Bride of Christ.
Preachers, how do you use this verse to your congregation?
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Originally Posted by CareyM
I am aware of this and have my own opinion about this verse...I'm curious how others use it...so you think the Bride of Christ will go through the judgment?
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I believe ALL will go through judgment. If you are referring to tribulation, I think we will go through a portion of it.
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Originally Posted by CareyM
Ok, but the question I keep asking that no one seems to want to answer is, is this verse refering to the Bride of Christ?
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Why would you think it wouldn't? The Bride of Christ is not exempt from the Word of God.
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Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson
The Bride of Christ and the church are one in the same who else but the church is considered righteous?
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I agree.
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Originally Posted by philjones
Sis. Carey,
Are you sure you don't believe the Bride will be judged? What is your scriptural basis for that belief? It is appointed unto man once to die and after this the judgement. What about that scripture excludes the bride of Christ?
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Again, I agree.
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03-22-2007, 09:17 AM
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It has always been my understanding that because no sin can enter heaven, if you die not having repented for some sin that you won't make it. I practice repenting every night for the things I know I am quilty of, the things others think I am guilty of, and then the things that I've missed  !
Blessings, Rhoni
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03-22-2007, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Rhoni
It has always been my understanding that because no sin can enter heaven, if you die not having repented for some sin that you won't make it. I practice repenting every night for the things I know I am quilty of, the things others think I am guilty of, and then the things that I've missed  !
Blessings, Rhoni
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Not to mention forgiving others as well.
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03-22-2007, 09:53 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2007
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Originally Posted by Ron
Not to mention forgiving others as well. 
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Yep...I need to work on that one, please pray for me. I have limits and after years and years the forgiving gets more difficult. I think, "There is no good reason for this assinine behavior"!
So I hope you good people are praying for Sis. Rhoni...she has been hanging on to the knot in the end of her rope for 6 months now.
blessings, Rhoni
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